Discussion:
Carol Tiggs - The Return of the Nagual Woman
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Tupio
2015-07-06 12:02:46 UTC
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http://sustainedreaction.yuku.com/topic/6935/Carol-Tiggs-The-Return-of-the-Nagual-Woman
allreadygone
2015-07-06 15:15:14 UTC
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big deal. so what?
slider
2015-07-06 16:08:45 UTC
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Post by allreadygone
big deal. so what?
### - hey i'd like to see her! surely she must have sparks coming out of
her tits by now? :P

anyway heh, weren't they all supposed to be dead or something??

dammit, ya just can't rely on 'anything' any more! huh :)
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-06 21:37:14 UTC
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Post by slider
Post by allreadygone
big deal. so what?
### - hey i'd like to see her! surely she must have sparks coming out of
her tits by now? :P
anyway heh, weren't they all supposed to be dead or something??
dammit, ya just can't rely on 'anything' any more! huh :)
Carol Tiggs is the only 'witch' who stayed with Cleargreen.
She was never believed dead. Except by herself, supposedly,
and then only figuratively speaking. ;)

One does have to wonder... since it's been almost 2 decades
since she last appeared, what new 'sorceric powers' does she have
to show everyone, being the last remaining 'apprentice' of
'don Juan', and 'a nagual woman' to boot?

I predict that she will show exactly nothing amazing,
since it's likely she can do nothing in the realm of 'power'.
Not that anyone else can. The whole thing was and is a farce.
allreadygone
2015-07-07 02:50:31 UTC
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on another note:

looks like bill cosby is finally coming to reality.
Hey Bill, welcome to reality man. It's about fucking
time man. Where you been homes?

now a joke ( side issue):
what did the mexicans say when the houses fell on them?
"get off me homes" ha ha !
slider
2015-07-07 03:25:32 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by slider
Post by allreadygone
big deal. so what?
### - hey i'd like to see her! surely she must have sparks coming out of
her tits by now? :P
anyway heh, weren't they all supposed to be dead or something??
dammit, ya just can't rely on 'anything' any more! huh :)
Carol Tiggs is the only 'witch' who stayed with Cleargreen.
She was never believed dead. Except by herself, supposedly,
and then only figuratively speaking. ;)
One does have to wonder... since it's been almost 2 decades
since she last appeared, what new 'sorceric powers' does she have
to show everyone, being the last remaining 'apprentice' of
'don Juan', and 'a nagual woman' to boot?
I predict that she will show exactly nothing amazing,
since it's likely she can do nothing in the realm of 'power'.
Not that anyone else can. The whole thing was and is a farce.
### - awww i was only yankin' ya chain heh heh heh...

maybe she'll write a book! :)
Tupio
2015-07-07 13:18:54 UTC
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Post by slider
maybe she'll write a book! :)
"Carol Tiggs and Taisha Abelar are both writing books. Carol's will be
called Tales of Energy."

http://sustainedaction.org/_nagualist/_NNL4/strange_tales_of_power.htm
Tupio
2015-07-07 13:21:50 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
I predict that she will show exactly nothing amazing,
Are you afraid of she will show something amazing? :)
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-08 01:26:16 UTC
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Post by Tupio
"Carol Tiggs and Taisha Abelar are both writing books.
Carol's will be called Tales of Energy."
http://sustainedaction.org/_nagualist/_NNL4/strange_tales_of_power.htm
You quoted obsolete information 20 years old. Troll?
Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
I predict that she will show exactly nothing amazing,
Are you afraid of she will show something amazing? :)
On the off chance that your silly question is serious:
No. I'm not afraid of that.

Perhaps you should read a bit more of the original thread:
http://tinyurl.com/o5hmr3v
Tupio
2015-07-08 07:36:59 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
You quoted obsolete information 20 years old. Troll?
Why 'obsolete'? Writers sometimes write their books
for very long time. Castaneda wrote his books for decades.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
No. I'm not afraid of that.
But you are not curious either. So what is your emotion?
Envy?
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
http://tinyurl.com/o5hmr3v
Why read this BS?
allreadygone
2015-07-08 14:45:53 UTC
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speaking of bs,
maybe they should bill
this show the "Chicky
and Blinky show" ?
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-08 17:13:49 UTC
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Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
You quoted obsolete information 20 years old. Troll?
Why 'obsolete'? Writers sometimes write their books
for very long time. Castaneda wrote his books for decades.
The longest CC ever took between books was 6 years,
and he never announced one more than a year in advance.
Taisha's been missing 17 years and book-less 23 years.
Carol hasn't published anything, ever.
Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
No. I'm not afraid of that.
But you are not curious either. So what is your emotion?
Envy?
Clearly it's more like just... amusement.
How do you feel about it?
Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
http://tinyurl.com/o5hmr3v
Why read this BS?
You're the one who posted the thread originally.
Don't you even read what you yourself post? :)
Tupio
2015-07-08 17:30:25 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The longest CC ever took between books was 6 years,
and he never announced one more than a year in advance.
Taisha's been missing 17 years and book-less 23 years.
Carol hasn't published anything, ever.
What does it prove? That nobody can write a book for decades?
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Clearly it's more like just... amusement.
How do you feel about it?
I feel good. Why not? :)
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
You're the one who posted the thread originally.
Don't you even read what you yourself post? :)
When I posted the link there was just a post, BS-comments was added later.

Any other clever questions? :)
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-08 18:35:08 UTC
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Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The longest CC ever took between books was 6 years,
and he never announced one more than a year in advance.
Taisha's been missing 17 years and book-less 23 years.
Carol hasn't published anything, ever.
What does it prove? That nobody can write a book for decades?
It proves you're either a troll, or are merely waiting
in anticipation for things that probably won't ever happen.
Mainly though, it proves that you waste everyone's time
talking about sh*t most of us already knew 20 years ago.
Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Clearly it's more like just... amusement.
How do you feel about it?
I feel good. Why not? :)
Why? Explain what you think is 'good' about it.
Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
You're the one who posted the thread originally.
Don't you even read what you yourself post? :)
When I posted the link there was just a post, BS-comments was added later.
You just lied. The date/time stamps in our forum show that the
first 3 posts in that thread were already there when you posted,
the first 2 for more than an entire day.

So... like so many people who are into Castaneda, you lie.
That has now been established.
Post by Tupio
Any other clever questions? :)
Not for now. You aren't interesting enough to ask more. :)
Tupio
2015-07-08 18:49:30 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
You just lied. The date/time stamps in our forum show that the
first 3 posts in that thread were already there when you posted,
the first 2 for more than an entire day.
Wow! You're really cool detective - I see this now!

You've definitely found something, but...
I predict that you will show exactly nothing amazing here, Jeremi.

Also you are liar - like all these non-castaneda people.

Shame on you and have a good day.
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-08 19:54:34 UTC
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Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
You just lied. The date/time stamps in our forum show that the
first 3 posts in that thread were already there when you posted,
the first 2 for more than an entire day.
Wow! You're really cool detective - I see this now!
Yes, you do see it now. It makes you really angry, too. :)
Just as you tried to project on me. But you're really angry...
Post by Tupio
You've definitely found something, but...
I predict that you will show exactly nothing amazing here, Jeremi.
I didn't make any claims about anything amazing. :)
Post by Tupio
Also you are liar - like all these non-castaneda people.
If you can't provide any evidence for your claims,
then your comments are bs.
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-08 21:19:14 UTC
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Dupio, you also failed to answer the question:
What do you think is 'good' about Carol Tiggs returning
to support Cleargreen workshops?

Do you think being a deceptive opportunist who helps dupe
other people is a 'good' thing? Do you enjoy being duped?
slider
2015-07-08 22:15:25 UTC
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Jeremy wrote...
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
What do you think is 'good' about Carol Tiggs returning
to support Cleargreen workshops?
Do you think being a deceptive opportunist who helps dupe
other people is a 'good' thing? Do you enjoy being duped?
### - i initially made a dumb joke about all this in some small effort to
maybe 'offset' the inevitable tide of anger (+ every other possible
reaction ya can imagine, all of it quite negative really) sweeping amongst
a certain group of peeps that carol tiggs' return was/is 'bound' to
create! and best advice is to do the same?

i mean, for example, 'you personally' seemed to be doin' alright recently
really; just getting on with your life, taking some pretty cools pics of
mother nature and enjoying it, appreciating good music, trying to deal
with reality + taking part in debating the nature of it etc + trying to be
objective (which imho is the best anyone can basically do anyway under
'any' circumstances really) and imho not really doin' that bad either,
which is good! laudable! and acceptable! it's all... real

iow: (and maybe ya might be able to accept this from li'l old me) you've
worked hard and made/cleared a space for yourself, right in the middle of
a pile of shit (the life situation of virtually everyone on this planet in
one form or another really huh) so then don't let 'anything' (or anyone!)
take that away from ya again, ok? you're doin' alright man!

barkeep! give my-man here a nice drink! (or a smoke, whichever he prefers)

--------------

"sometimes it's better to be an observer in life rather than a participant"

--some unknown but probably pretty cool dude :)
allreadygone
2015-07-09 00:51:40 UTC
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Dr. Phil to the rescue eh Slides?

come on dude, this is very old hat

for danced with deceivers. This guy

(or maybe a girl) came here to start

some shit. He signed up for it. How

could anyone disappoint him at this stage

of the game? This sport like shooting clay

pigeons. No harm, no foul. Just folly.
slider
2015-07-09 03:01:22 UTC
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Post by allreadygone
Dr. Phil to the rescue eh Slides?
come on dude, this is very old hat
for danced with deceivers. This guy
(or maybe a girl) came here to start
some shit. He signed up for it. How
could anyone disappoint him at this stage
of the game? This sport like shooting clay
pigeons. No harm, no foul. Just folly.
### - heh @ dr phil + more like jerry springer in THIS place! lol :))

but it's not just this dude on here particularly tho, it's the message
itself which prolly sends a shudder through a whole bunch of peeps who
were probably all just about forgetting it all/moving on, and her return
is risks raking it all up again: arguments, debates, denouncements,
accusations, hatred, anger and all the rest of it etc etc et al... IF ya
let it?

i say pay no attention! (or laff it off then at least) it really IS all
old hat!

no more than just an amusing memory at best...

unaffected! indifferent! detached :)
Bob
2015-07-09 01:02:38 UTC
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Post by slider
Jeremy wrote...
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
What do you think is 'good' about Carol Tiggs returning
to support Cleargreen workshops?
Do you think being a deceptive opportunist who helps dupe
other people is a 'good' thing? Do you enjoy being duped?
### - i initially made a dumb joke about all this in some small effort
to maybe 'offset' the inevitable tide of anger (+ every other possible
reaction ya can imagine, all of it quite negative really) sweeping
amongst a certain group of peeps that carol tiggs' return was/is 'bound'
to create! and best advice is to do the same?
i mean, for example, 'you personally' seemed to be doin' alright
recently really; just getting on with your life, taking some pretty
cools pics of mother nature and enjoying it, appreciating good music,
trying to deal with reality + taking part in debating the nature of it
etc + trying to be objective (which imho is the best anyone can
basically do anyway under 'any' circumstances really) and imho not
really doin' that bad either, which is good! laudable! and acceptable!
it's all... real
iow: (and maybe ya might be able to accept this from li'l old me) you've
worked hard and made/cleared a space for yourself, right in the middle
of a pile of shit (the life situation of virtually everyone on this
planet in one form or another really huh) so then don't let 'anything'
(or anyone!) take that away from ya again, ok? you're doin' alright man!
barkeep! give my-man here a nice drink! (or a smoke, whichever he prefers)
--------------
"sometimes it's better to be an observer in life rather than a participant"
--some unknown but probably pretty cool dude :)
Is Carrol really such a hot chick? Then maybe i'll like to get to know
her, just to see what sorcerers are like!?!?
slider
2015-07-09 03:19:21 UTC
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Bob wrote...
Post by Bob
Post by slider
"sometimes it's better to be an observer in life rather than a participant"
--some unknown but probably pretty cool dude :)
Is Carrol really such a hot chick? Then maybe i'll like to get to know
her, just to see what sorcerers are like!?!?
### - magical pussy! could be interesting!

:)))
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-09 18:16:57 UTC
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Post by slider
Jeremy wrote...
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
What do you think is 'good' about Carol Tiggs returning
to support Cleargreen workshops?
Do you think being a deceptive opportunist who helps dupe
other people is a 'good' thing? Do you enjoy being duped?
### - i initially made a dumb joke about all this in some small effort to
maybe 'offset' the inevitable tide of anger (+ every other possible
reaction ya can imagine, all of it quite negative really) sweeping amongst
a certain group of peeps that carol tiggs' return was/is 'bound' to
create! and best advice is to do the same?
It ain't that big a deal. But there's an important issue here,
which is that Carol Tiggs is one of the last remaining people
who could actually tell sizable portions of the truth about what
really happened with Carlos Castaneda, if she just had the guts
to stop milking the damn game.

Not all the truth; she came along a bit too late to know that,
but she could tell ... a lot, because CC wrote all kinds of nonsense
about her, and she knows what the truth is. She could talk.

Yeah, I know she's heavily invested, and that she led on a lot
of people at Cleargreen, but she could still tell the truth
if she could pull her head out of her entitled ass and get
free of all the hornswoggle she got fed by Gurdjieff's peeps
and Carlos and a bunch of herbalists and acupuncturists.

On second thought, I suppose that's a lot of bs to cut through,
so it's a long shot. :)

But still, the best possible treatment that woman could ever get
from history is to REALLY come clean and tell the whole truth.
She just hasn't figured that out yet, and maybe won't...
unless I like ... make a big issue out of it!! (wink, wink)

Pretty please with luminous fuckin' energy on top??
Post by slider
i mean, for example, 'you personally' seemed to be doin' alright recently
really; just getting on with your life, taking some pretty cools pics of
mother nature and enjoying it, appreciating good music, trying to deal
with reality + taking part in debating the nature of it etc + trying to be
objective (which imho is the best anyone can basically do anyway under
'any' circumstances really) and imho not really doin' that bad either,
which is good! laudable! and acceptable! it's all... real
Well, it's not like I'm going to stop doing all that. :)

Last night we drove into the heart of hell to see a slice of heaven -
the premiere of a special film, made back in 1974 but never shown
until now: A Poem Is A Naked Person, mostly about Leon Russell.

The premiere was in a beautifully ornate theatre at The Ace Hotel
in downtown LA, and we had a gourmet meal right next door beforehand,
and there was Q&A afterwards with Leon Russell and T-Bone Burnett,
in person. The anecdotes and banter between those two was priceless.

I want my own copy of this film for several reasons. One reason is
that over the credits Willis Alan Ramsey sings a wonderful song
I'd never heard before about swimming 'Naked At The Lake' which
isn't available anywhere else. Another reason is that the versions
of "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" and "A Satisfied Mind" that Leon
does in the film are magnificent. There's also a scene of a
building being demolished with explosives in Tulsa, and I was
there at that event (about age 16). Lots of shots of Tulsa in it.
There's considerable footage on the building of Leon's house
on Grand Lake O' the Cherokees in Northeast Oklahoma - the lake
our family vacationed on for 10 years when I was growing up. And they
visit with this strange guy who made totem poles named Ed Galloway.
We used to stop into that place too, on our way to the lake.

There's lots more in the film that's personally relevant for me.

A Poem Is A Naked Person:


Ed Galloway's Totem Pole:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Galloway%27s_Totem_Pole_Park
Post by slider
iow: (and maybe ya might be able to accept this from li'l old me) you've
worked hard and made/cleared a space for yourself, right in the middle of
a pile of shit (the life situation of virtually everyone on this planet in
one form or another really huh) so then don't let 'anything' (or anyone!)
take that away from ya again, ok? you're doin' alright man!
barkeep! give my-man here a nice drink! (or a smoke, whichever he prefers)
Look man, I still don't know what Riley's doing for a life these days,
because I've been living his. Ridiculously luxurious and fun. :)

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-life-of-riley.html

I'm getting ready to do another extended road trip in July.
And in August we're taking another week up around Yosemite.

It almost ought to be criminal to have this much fun...
but I'm going to keep getting it while the gettin's good.
Post by slider
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"sometimes it's better to be an observer in life rather than a participant"
--some unknown but probably pretty cool dude :)
I find it's often easy to be both at the same time.
slider
2015-07-10 12:26:33 UTC
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Jeremy wrote...
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by slider
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
What do you think is 'good' about Carol Tiggs returning
to support Cleargreen workshops?
Do you think being a deceptive opportunist who helps dupe
other people is a 'good' thing? Do you enjoy being duped?
### - i initially made a dumb joke about all this in some small effort to
maybe 'offset' the inevitable tide of anger (+ every other possible
reaction ya can imagine, all of it quite negative really) sweeping amongst
a certain group of peeps that carol tiggs' return was/is 'bound' to
create! and best advice is to do the same?
It ain't that big a deal. But there's an important issue here,
which is that Carol Tiggs is one of the last remaining people
who could actually tell sizable portions of the truth about what
really happened with Carlos Castaneda, if she just had the guts
to stop milking the damn game.
Not all the truth; she came along a bit too late to know that,
but she could tell ... a lot, because CC wrote all kinds of nonsense
about her, and she knows what the truth is. She could talk.
Yeah, I know she's heavily invested, and that she led on a lot
of people at Cleargreen, but she could still tell the truth
if she could pull her head out of her entitled ass and get
free of all the hornswoggle she got fed by Gurdjieff's peeps
and Carlos and a bunch of herbalists and acupuncturists.
On second thought, I suppose that's a lot of bs to cut through,
so it's a long shot. :)
But still, the best possible treatment that woman could ever get
from history is to REALLY come clean and tell the whole truth.
She just hasn't figured that out yet, and maybe won't...
unless I like ... make a big issue out of it!! (wink, wink)
Pretty please with luminous fuckin' energy on top??
### - 'heavily invested' as you say + already actively taking part in
international workshops etc; she's therefore highly unlikely to suddenly
become instrumental in bringing down a multi-million dollar going concern,
not to mention placing herself directly in the center of a resulting
public shit-storm by doing so + by calling bs on the whole thing... it
ain't gonna happen
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by slider
i mean, for example, 'you personally' seemed to be doin' alright recently
really; just getting on with your life, taking some pretty cools pics of
mother nature and enjoying it, appreciating good music, trying to deal
with reality + taking part in debating the nature of it etc + trying to be
objective (which imho is the best anyone can basically do anyway under
'any' circumstances really) and imho not really doin' that bad either,
which is good! laudable! and acceptable! it's all... real
Well, it's not like I'm going to stop doing all that. :)
Last night we drove into the heart of hell to see a slice of heaven -
the premiere of a special film, made back in 1974 but never shown
until now: A Poem Is A Naked Person, mostly about Leon Russell.
The premiere was in a beautifully ornate theatre at The Ace Hotel
in downtown LA, and we had a gourmet meal right next door beforehand,
and there was Q&A afterwards with Leon Russell and T-Bone Burnett,
in person. The anecdotes and banter between those two was priceless.
I want my own copy of this film for several reasons. One reason is
that over the credits Willis Alan Ramsey sings a wonderful song
I'd never heard before about swimming 'Naked At The Lake' which
isn't available anywhere else. Another reason is that the versions
of "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" and "A Satisfied Mind" that Leon
does in the film are magnificent. There's also a scene of a
building being demolished with explosives in Tulsa, and I was
there at that event (about age 16). Lots of shots of Tulsa in it.
There's considerable footage on the building of Leon's house
on Grand Lake O' the Cherokees in Northeast Oklahoma - the lake
our family vacationed on for 10 years when I was growing up. And they
visit with this strange guy who made totem poles named Ed Galloway.
We used to stop into that place too, on our way to the lake.
There's lots more in the film that's personally relevant for me.
http://youtu.be/n6KpbMxxV64
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Galloway%27s_Totem_Pole_Park
### - will check it/'em out... plus of course you're not gonna stop doing
all/any-of that, it's just that taking part in a 'war' (and 'any' war is a
hateful/negative thing ultimately) has the potential to mar one's
otherwise full enjoyment + appreciation of all the good stuff that,
ultimately, keeps peeps sane?

i.e. all the time and energy you've already given/donated to it in the
past can't ever be recovered, wasted or not it's all gone + am sure you
accept that... but that don't mean have to give/donate any more of
yourself to what is ostensibly: a lost cause...
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by slider
iow: (and maybe ya might be able to accept this from li'l old me) you've
worked hard and made/cleared a space for yourself, right in the middle of
a pile of shit (the life situation of virtually everyone on this planet in
one form or another really huh) so then don't let 'anything' (or anyone!)
take that away from ya again, ok? you're doin' alright man!
barkeep! give my-man here a nice drink! (or a smoke, whichever he prefers)
Look man, I still don't know what Riley's doing for a life these days,
because I've been living his. Ridiculously luxurious and fun. :)
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-life-of-riley.html
I'm getting ready to do another extended road trip in July.
And in August we're taking another week up around Yosemite.
It almost ought to be criminal to have this much fun...
but I'm going to keep getting it while the gettin's good.
### - the only thing we don't/can't have... is more time

thus the only real remaining question being: whatcha gonna spend it on!

or conversely: waste it on!
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by slider
"sometimes it's better to be an observer in life rather than a participant"
--some unknown but probably pretty cool dude :)
I find it's often easy to be both at the same time.
### - i know whatcha mean, but also think that (for example) we're
ultimately (plus personally) all just 'tourists' on this planet, thus
enjoying it all/ seeing the sights + acutely appreciating the sheer wonder
of it all; is ALL it was ever 'really' about for people, both personally
and collectively... although that's far from what humanity in its madness
has 'made' of it all for themselves...

wallyworld ain't gonna be 'going-away' any time soon, i mean... but that
don't mean one has to live right in the thick of it either...

one can, for example + metaphorically speaking, choose to live... 'beside'
it :)



(i never get tired of listening to it + his differing versions of it, this
one for example heh:)
allreadygone
2015-07-10 22:06:44 UTC
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the former mrs. wagner ?

whatever happened to that marriage?

Mrs. Liz Wagner

Mrs. Carol Wagner

Mrs. (fill-in-the-blank) Wagner
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-10 22:52:37 UTC
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Post by allreadygone
the former mrs. wagner ?
whatever happened to that marriage?
Mrs. Liz Wagner
Mrs. Carol Wagner
Mrs. (fill-in-the-blank) Wagner
Oh I'm sure they were very happy together. NOT! :)

So Chris, I'm going to be up around your area in a week or so.
Want to have dinner and a shot or two one night? If so, e-mail.
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-10 23:33:21 UTC
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Slider, I'm going to lobby for what I perceive to be the best outcome.
Post by slider
one can, for example + metaphorically speaking, choose to live... 'beside'
it :)
http://youtu.be/lvT0YI3Ogag
(i never get tired of listening to it + his differing versions of it, this
one for example heh:)
I just got 'beside' that one, putting it on and jamming along with Tyner.
Coltrane does indeed let loose on it, especially toward the end.

It's fun how you can just put on some YouTube jam by greats,
and jam right along with them. I do that all the time. In fact,
I'd done it once earlier today before reading this, to a rare jam
by Leon and Clapton. I played along with them today on Paint It Black.


Saw Tyner live in LA years ago, btw.
Do you happen to know this one by Tyner?


I have 4 different versions of that song.

Okay, another little musical gift for you - an Australian
aborigine rock band I ran across back in the 80's. Most of
their albums are unavailable now, but one you can still get,
and You Tube includes most of my favorites:

No More Boomerang:


Black Boy:


Alice Springs: (includes a write-up of their history)


Lonely Life:


Kalpi Pulka:


Island Of Greed:


***

You're on your own with them from here. :)
Tupio
2015-07-09 08:38:59 UTC
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I'm not interested in you and your stupid disrobing activity.

You better go to the public out from this hidden and forgotten group
to preach people of your They-are-all-lying! religion.

Probably you'll find more followers there than couple of poor residents
of this group. At least you can try...
slider
2015-07-09 09:37:07 UTC
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Post by Tupio
I'm not interested in you and your stupid disrobing activity.
### - just let it go maan?

everyone's entitled to their opinion...

agreeing to disagree being the intelligent option when not always seeing
eye to eye

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"An eye for an eye just makes the whole world blind" --gandhi
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-09 18:21:38 UTC
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I'm not interested in you and your stupid disrobing activity.
You better go to the public out from this hidden and forgotten group
to preach people of your They-are-all-lying! religion.
Probably you'll find more followers there than couple of poor residents
of this group. At least you can try...
Good idea, Dupio, albeit an idea I had long ago.
You enjoy being duped now.
Tupio
2015-07-09 18:39:01 UTC
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Good idea, Dupio, albeit an idea I had long ago.
You enjoy being duped now.
What is the value of "truth" if it makes you so miserable.
But it's your choice, probably you want to sacrifice yourself for this
"truth"?...
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-09 23:08:19 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Good idea, Dupio, albeit an idea I had long ago.
You enjoy being duped now.
What is the value of "truth" if it makes you so miserable.
But it's your choice, probably you want to sacrifice yourself for this
"truth"?...
Truth not only doesn't make people miserable, it's the road to a
genuinely bright future for the greatest possible number of people.
Tupio
2015-07-10 06:51:01 UTC
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Post by Tupio
What is the value of "truth" if it makes you so miserable.
But it's your choice, probably you want to sacrifice yourself for this
"truth"?...
Truth not only doesn't make people miserable, it's the road to a
genuinely bright future for the greatest possible number of people.
Truth but not "truth" like yours.
Adolf Hitler had his own "truth" which led him to burn people.
This type of "truth" is called judgment.
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-10 22:46:38 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by Tupio
What is the value of "truth" if it makes you so miserable.
But it's your choice, probably you want to sacrifice yourself for this
"truth"?...
Truth not only doesn't make people miserable, it's the road to a
genuinely bright future for the greatest possible number of people.
Truth but not "truth" like yours.
Adolf Hitler had his own "truth" which led him to burn people.
This type of "truth" is called judgment.
You mean, what you just did? :) It's not even clear what point
you're referring to that's allegedly "mine". So tell us Bob,
how do you identify and validate the truth? Be specific.
And tell us Bob, do you really think comparing people you
disagree with to Adolf Hitler is a good way to get to truth?

Be honest...you don't really give two shits about truth, do you? :)
Sure doesn't seem like it.

What I said was true. To the maximum extent we can pursue truth,
properly validating and verifying it, that will become a large part
of the path to the greatest good for the greatest number.

The buffoon who started this conversation is the one who sounded
closer to 'miserable'. I most assuredly am not. Unfortunately for him,
I'm almost obscenely happy - so happy my internet enemies HATE it. :)

As they say, living well is the best revenge...
Bob
2015-07-11 08:29:19 UTC
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Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by Tupio
What is the value of "truth" if it makes you so miserable.
But it's your choice, probably you want to sacrifice yourself for this
"truth"?...
Truth not only doesn't make people miserable, it's the road to a
genuinely bright future for the greatest possible number of people.
Truth but not "truth" like yours.
Adolf Hitler had his own "truth" which led him to burn people.
This type of "truth" is called judgment.
You mean, what you just did? :) It's not even clear what point
you're referring to that's allegedly "mine". So tell us Bob,
how do you identify and validate the truth? Be specific.
And tell us Bob, do you really think comparing people you
disagree with to Adolf Hitler is a good way to get to truth?
Be honest...you don't really give two shits about truth, do you? :)
Sure doesn't seem like it.
What I said was true. To the maximum extent we can pursue truth,
properly validating and verifying it, that will become a large part
of the path to the greatest good for the greatest number.
The buffoon who started this conversation is the one who sounded
closer to 'miserable'. I most assuredly am not. Unfortunately for him,
I'm almost obscenely happy - so happy my internet enemies HATE it. :)
As they say, living well is the best revenge...
I'm not Tupio!!!!!!!!
Don't confuse me with Tupio!
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-11 16:48:25 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by Tupio
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by Tupio
What is the value of "truth" if it makes you so miserable.
But it's your choice, probably you want to sacrifice yourself for this
"truth"?...
Truth not only doesn't make people miserable, it's the road to a
genuinely bright future for the greatest possible number of people.
Truth but not "truth" like yours.
Adolf Hitler had his own "truth" which led him to burn people.
This type of "truth" is called judgment.
You mean, what you just did? :) It's not even clear what point
you're referring to that's allegedly "mine". So tell us Bob,
how do you identify and validate the truth? Be specific.
And tell us Bob, do you really think comparing people you
disagree with to Adolf Hitler is a good way to get to truth?
Be honest...you don't really give two shits about truth, do you? :)
Sure doesn't seem like it.
What I said was true. To the maximum extent we can pursue truth,
properly validating and verifying it, that will become a large part
of the path to the greatest good for the greatest number.
The buffoon who started this conversation is the one who sounded
closer to 'miserable'. I most assuredly am not. Unfortunately for him,
I'm almost obscenely happy - so happy my internet enemies HATE it. :)
As they say, living well is the best revenge...
I'm not Tupio!!!!!!!!
Don't confuse me with Tupio!
Hi Bob. It's not that you're Tupio. It's that Tupio is Bob. :)

You see, Castaneda claimed the flyers give people their minds.
He called that mind 'Bobby'. That's why I called Tupio 'Bob'.
Because if Tupio really believes Castaneda wrote the truth,
then he believes he is Bob. So I called him by his true name. :)

Quoting Castaneda from the Active Side of Ridiculousness:
"They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators
give us their mind which becomes our mind."

So Tupio, if he buys CC's bs, and he seems to, is really Bob.
Have a good day Bob. Sorry about the confusion.
Tupio
2015-07-11 12:28:53 UTC
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I'm almost obscenely happy - so happy my internet enemies HATE it. :)
You are living a hateful life to Castaneda even after almost 20 years
after his departure. Nobody can be really happy while hate, only PRETEND
to be. (And in the last case one needs to TELL everybody of his/her
happiness, often!)

(And please don't try to create long explanation why you "really don't
hate Castaneda" - it is clearly appeared from your reaction on recent
'Carol Tiggs return back' topic.)
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-07-11 16:52:59 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
I'm almost obscenely happy - so happy my internet enemies HATE it. :)
You are living a hateful life to Castaneda even after almost 20 years
after his departure. Nobody can be really happy while hate, only PRETEND
to be. (And in the last case one needs to TELL everybody of his/her
happiness, often!)
(And please don't try to create long explanation why you "really don't
hate Castaneda" - it is clearly appeared from your reaction on recent
'Carol Tiggs return back' topic.)
I really don't hate Castaneda. :)
And I don't mind letting people know that I love life and am happy.
Too bad if that bothers you, Bob.
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-08-31 17:31:36 UTC
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The 'Carol Tiggs - The Return of the Nagual Woman' thread on
the Sustained Reaction now extends to 8 pages, and includes many
interesting *on-topic* insights:

http://tinyurl.com/o7kwvkb

:)
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2015-11-24 23:15:03 UTC
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Check this one out:
http://tinyurl.com/jod7bc3

Carol tries to pass off a straw-breathing technique she
recently learned in a yoga class as coming from 'don Juan'.
Caught red-handed... again.
allreadygone
2015-11-25 15:50:33 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Caught red-handed... again.
caught with her panties down again?

witches don't wear no stinkin' panties do they? lol j/k

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