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Donald Trump delivers America’s Brexit
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slider
2016-11-09 08:41:40 UTC
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This revolt against the political and economic order is immeasurably mor=
e
significant

America has its Brexit. The only difference is that this time there is n=
o
part of the world that can dismiss this as a local European difficulty.

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After this, the free-market, open, globalist-minded world can only sit
back and wonder where the next domino will fall. Maybe France; is anyone=

now confident that Marine Le Pen cannot win the presidency next year?
Whatever comes next cannot reverberate as much as Donald Trump=E2=80=99s=

improbable victory. It is now beyond doubt that we are seeing a revolt
against the political and economic order that has governed the western
world for decades. The market reaction made clear that investors see thi=
s
result in those terms.

The grievances may have been specific =E2=80=94 the cost of Obamacare mo=
st
obviously =E2=80=94 but the underlying story is the same and many of the=
features
are common to both the Brexit campaign and to many of the other populist=

movements being seen across the western world. Mr Trump=E2=80=99s win is=

immeasurably more significant than Brexit, not merely for America but fo=
r
all those nations that look to it for a lead and who now see an utterly
unpredictable man at its helm. This was a vote that signalled America=E2=
=80=99s
descent from optimism to pessimism. Eight years ago it voted for =E2=80=9C=
Hope=E2=80=9D
and for the slogan =E2=80=9CYes we Can=E2=80=9D. Mr Trump=E2=80=99s camp=
aign was one that painted
America as a victim.

For those who saw the Brexit vote at first hand what has happened in
America will seem all too familiar. At its heart is a nation almost spli=
t
down the middle in which neither half can comprehend even for a moment
what drove the other to vote the way it did. And the more the wise heads=

yelled that people could not vote for this man, the more convinced his
audience became that he was just what they wanted.

His very unsavouriness to the nation=E2=80=99s ruling elite, to its inte=
llectuals
and liberals and even to the grand figures in the Republican establishme=
nt
became almost his greatest selling point to a segment of society convinc=
ed
that what it needed most was something different. Even if he had not won=
,
the scale of anger and division he stoked would have been hard to quell.=


Across the states, Mr Trump touched a chord with the angry, working clas=
s,
white mainstream who have seen the certainties of their world fade with
globalisation, with free trade, with technology and with the sense that
America no longer punches its weight in the world.

As with Brexit, an emotional appeal with a simple slogan overcame every
rational explanation, many accepted truths and every legitimate doubt
about the worthiness of the candidate. As with Brexit it did not matter
that there were no details behind the sweeping promises; the people vote=
d
for change first and resolved to worry about the details later.

No position was too outrageous; threats to jail his opponents, muzzle th=
e
press or ban an entire religion from entering the country all failed to
dent his appeal. His praise for Russia=E2=80=99s leader and refusal to d=
isavow
endorsements from the Ku Klux Klan made no difference.

And only far too late did the establishment begin to sense the danger.
Just as David Cameron, the former British prime minister, loftily
dismissed the UK Independence Party as =E2=80=9Cfruitcakes, loonies and =
racists=E2=80=9D,
so Mrs Clinton described half of Mr Trump=E2=80=99s supporters as =E2=80=
=9Cdeplorables=E2=80=9D.
The fact that some of them are deplorable does not lessen the foolishnes=
s
of tarring the rest with the same brush. Mr Trump came to see the brexit=

campaign as a template, even flying in one of its leader=E2=80=99s Nigel=
Farage,
for support and advice. He predicted his victory would be =E2=80=9CBrexi=
t plus
plus plus=E2=80=9D. As Mr Trump dug deeper into the core of discontent M=
rs Clinton
appeared to abandon them in favour of more traditional bases of support,=

endeavouring to drum up the fear he engendered among women, minorities a=
nd
graduates.

Many of those who voted for him were keenly aware of his shortcomings. B=
ut
the grievances which impelled them to support him outweighed any distast=
e
they might have. Speaking outside a polling station in Brooklyn, an
unemployed IT manager admitted: =E2=80=9CI don=E2=80=99t know if I trust=
him=E2=80=9D; another
considered him =E2=80=9Cthe lesser of two evils=E2=80=9D. More positive =
supporters talked
of how he would =E2=80=9CMake America great again=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cdrai=
n the swamp=E2=80=9D and bring
back lost jobs. Another way of saying the same thing is that he promised=

to turn back the clock to an era when America was more sheltered against=

the economic forces of the world.

Many will speculate that in Mrs Clinton, the Democrats gifted Donald Tru=
mp
perhaps the only opponent he could defeat. He could not have chosen
someone more suited to his strategy. Mrs Clinton represented everything
his rising opposed. Aside from the liberal policies which most Democrats=

would espouse she spoke to a sense of an establishment continuum, and a
proximity to the hated Wall Street whose leaders escaped meaningful
sanction for the economic crash. But she also seemed attached to the ver=
y
groups this rebellion has targeted, most particularly the working women
and immigrants who are crowding them out of the labour market, the colle=
ge
graduates enjoying prosperity as they saw their traditional industries
closing down.

There is no question that she also faced misogyny =E2=80=94 the caller t=
o Rush
Limbaugh=E2=80=99s rightwing radio show who said she reminded him of eve=
ry man=E2=80=99s
ex-wife also touched a nerve with some voters. We will never know for su=
re
the impact of the resurrected FBI probe into her emails, but the
conjecture will be that it gave some voters the permission they were
looking for to cast their ballot against her.

But there was also a joylessness to her campaign, almost a sense of
entitlement. For what was meant to be her victory party she hired the hu=
ge
and soulless crystal palace, the Jacob Javits conference centre, seeming=
ly
so she could indeed point to the great glass ceiling above her head as s=
he
declared that she had smashed through it. That moment will have to wait.=


Inside the hall, as the reality dawned, one could see the incomprehensio=
n
among Clinton supporters. They were having to cope not merely with defea=
t
but with a defeat they simply cannot understand. It is a defeat which is=

going to force people to revise their view of America.

Mr Trump and his insurgents cheerfully broke every rule, told
extraordinary untruths and adopted policy positions which strain
credibility. The greatest worry for his opponents =E2=80=94 and indeed f=
or the
wider world =E2=80=94 is that having won by defying every conventional w=
isdom he
has no reason to start listening to it now. There will be few restraints=

to stop him fulfilling pledges to tear up the nuclear deal with Iran,
scrap proposed trade treaties or weaken America=E2=80=99s commitment to =
Nato.
Again, as with Brexit, minorities will wake this morning more fearful
about the prejudice which has now been legitimised and unleashed against=

them.

Once every few decades America has managed to find the right man for a
crisis of confidence, perhaps most notably the trustbusting Teddy
Roosevelt. Mr Trump rose to power by recognising that his country once
more had a yearning for such a man. There the similarity would seem to
end. But he has now delivered the most stunning revolt in his country=E2=
=80=99s
history. Americans and the world can now only hope that he somehow manag=
es
to prove that =E2=80=94 against all the obvious indicators =E2=80=94 he =
is capable of
rising to those heights and managing the demons he has set free.

### - right wing all the way! 'might is right' rules again big time!

what hope for the world now??

in truth; probably even less than before...

make no mistake we ARE insane!

and well, seein' as we're obviously all completely nuts hehehe...

who shall we bet on getting nuked first then eh? eh?

somewhere in the middle east possibly?

(small ones to start with, of course, save all the big ones for later)

so open up the pearly gates, we're all gonna die! :)


allreadygone
2016-11-09 13:31:49 UTC
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mexico is fucked.
poor bastards.
peso blew below 10%.
let's see today where it lands
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 14:00:37 UTC
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 05:31:49 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
Post by allreadygone
mexico is fucked.
poor bastards.
peso blew below 10%.
let's see today where it lands
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.

Alas, America, what just happened to you? Once great, now just a
shadow of its former self.

Guarantee you don't have a college degree right?
allreadygone
2016-11-09 14:38:07 UTC
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Post by thang ornerythinchus
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
oh you're going to play the racist card, is that right?
i make fun of everyone, including myself.
when someone plays the racist card it
just means they are stuck in poor baby for life.
is that where you want to be?
by the way i don't give a fuck what dj trumpy does.
but you can worry for me ok? feel free eh?
slider
2016-11-09 14:42:43 UTC
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Post by allreadygone
Post by thang ornerythinchus
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
oh you're going to play the racist card, is that right?
i make fun of everyone, including myself.
when someone plays the racist card it
just means they are stuck in poor baby for life.
is that where you want to be?
by the way i don't give a fuck what dj trumpy does.
but you can worry for me ok? feel free eh?
### - pay no attention to that prick buddy, he was bashing the russians
before and now he wants to bash the americans, well duh...

he LIKES to bash thing don'tcha know? :)
allreadygone
2016-11-09 14:51:38 UTC
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i asked my wife is this a dream ?
maybe this is a false awakening?
I woke up and dj trumpy wins the election.
can it be? the fucker beat out missa clinton?
i'd say some heavy crow is gonna get served today.
meanwhile back at the ranch
it's the same as it ever was.
slider
2016-11-09 15:01:50 UTC
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allreadygone wrote...
Post by allreadygone
it's the same as it ever was.
### - exactly, meet the new boss same as the old boss, nothing changes
here...

the same old shit, it's all just becoming more open and overt is all!

like why hide shit beneath the surface if ya don't have to any more eh?

so open sewers are better than underground ones? not really, but at least
you can see where NOT to tread more easily :)
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 22:27:53 UTC
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Post by slider
allreadygone wrote...
Post by allreadygone
it's the same as it ever was.
### - exactly, meet the new boss same as the old boss, nothing changes
here...
Jesus you're stupid you old impoverished goat. You can't see the wood
for the trees (as usual). The only one with any intellect here (apart
from myself) is Dave - sorry to say.

This "boss" is nothing like any other boss the US has ever had. Not
even Buchanan, who espoused slavery. This guy is different. He has a
hidden agenda. He will take America to places it has never been
before, ever. And not in a good way, watch and see.
Post by slider
the same old shit, it's all just becoming more open and overt is all!
Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.
Post by slider
like why hide shit beneath the surface if ya don't have to any more eh?
so open sewers are better than underground ones? not really, but at least
you can see where NOT to tread more easily :)
You'd know about that, wouldn't you Brian? Stepping on dogshit and all
that, I mean...
slider
2016-11-09 22:50:29 UTC
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 22:27:53 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
allreadygone wrote...
Post by allreadygone
it's the same as it ever was.
### - exactly, meet the new boss same as the old boss, nothing changes
here...
Jesus you're stupid you old impoverished goat. You can't see the wood
for the trees (as usual). The only one with any intellect here (apart
from myself) is Dave - sorry to say.
This "boss" is nothing like any other boss the US has ever had. Not
even Buchanan, who espoused slavery. This guy is different. He has a
hidden agenda. He will take America to places it has never been
before, ever. And not in a good way, watch and see.
### - don't like him huh? well, they say one either abhors or loves
someone who's the exact reflection of ourselves lol (go figure...)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
the same old shit, it's all just becoming more open and overt is all!
Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about.
### - i know 'exactly' what am talking about mate, it's YOU that doesn't
understand hence you're lashing out again and again and again, and you
don't even really care who as long as it eases your own pain... do you see
me lashing out whenever am disappointed?? no... so go figure just who's
the moron here! (really laughing...)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
like why hide shit beneath the surface if ya don't have to any more eh?
so open sewers are better than underground ones? not really, but at least
you can see where NOT to tread more easily :)
You'd know about that, wouldn't you Brian? Stepping on dogshit and all
that, I mean...
### - well it's gotta' be better than stepping on aborigines hah! :D
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 22:23:31 UTC
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 06:51:38 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
Post by allreadygone
i asked my wife is this a dream ?
maybe this is a false awakening?
I woke up and dj trumpy wins the election.
can it be? the fucker beat out missa clinton?
i'd say some heavy crow is gonna get served today.
meanwhile back at the ranch
it's the same as it ever was.
It will NEVER be the same as it ever was in your country. Never. What
happened yesterday was irreversible and a stain on your country
forever. The entire world feels America has had it duped for the last
couple of centuries. Land of the free - hah! Trump is another
Hitler, watch this space...

And if I was HRC, I would be leaving the country. As Trump said, he
intends on "draining the swamp". He is vindictive and HRC is squarely
in his sights.
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 22:20:50 UTC
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Post by slider
Post by allreadygone
Post by thang ornerythinchus
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
oh you're going to play the racist card, is that right?
i make fun of everyone, including myself.
when someone plays the racist card it
just means they are stuck in poor baby for life.
is that where you want to be?
by the way i don't give a fuck what dj trumpy does.
but you can worry for me ok? feel free eh?
### - pay no attention to that prick buddy, he was bashing the russians
before and now he wants to bash the americans, well duh...
he LIKES to bash thing don'tcha know? :)
You're a fucking dunce mate. I bash when bashing is required,
generally due to rampant stupidity. And this guy can stand up for
himself can't he Brian?

Anyhow, the Americans are a total global disgrace voting a cunt like
Trump in - woman molester, misogynist, misanthrope, low IQ, unread and
under-educated, racist, demagogue, despot, anti-climate change -
Jesus Christ, how could they DO that?? It's like 1933 in Germany when
the motorcades with a little Austrian corporal started and never
finished until there were 50 million dead in Europe.

The entire American reputation built up since emancipation of slavery
has just gone down the toilet. Probably forever.

You don't get it do you Brian? Too big for your little mind to
encompass. Then again, the UK thinks it can cut off links with
mainland Europe and escape unscathed. More stupidity from the
unwashed, unread, uneducated masses.
slider
2016-11-09 22:40:43 UTC
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 22:20:50 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
Post by allreadygone
Post by thang ornerythinchus
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
oh you're going to play the racist card, is that right?
i make fun of everyone, including myself.
when someone plays the racist card it
just means they are stuck in poor baby for life.
is that where you want to be?
by the way i don't give a fuck what dj trumpy does.
but you can worry for me ok? feel free eh?
### - pay no attention to that prick buddy, he was bashing the russians
before and now he wants to bash the americans, well duh...
he LIKES to bash thing don'tcha know? :)
You're a fucking dunce mate. I bash when bashing is required,
generally due to rampant stupidity. And this guy can stand up for
himself can't he Brian?
### - nah, you 'bash' whenever you lose comprehension, whenever you don't
'understand' something you start hitting out like an idiot, and you really
don't care whom; anything's better than containing your pain and that
seems pretty meager-minded to me :)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Anyhow, the Americans are a total global disgrace voting a cunt like
Trump in - woman molester, misogynist, misanthrope, low IQ, unread and
under-educated, racist, demagogue, despot, anti-climate change -
Jesus Christ, how could they DO that?? It's like 1933 in Germany when
the motorcades with a little Austrian corporal started and never
finished until there were 50 million dead in Europe.
### - you realise all that about hitler and yet you collect that cunts
medals and enjoy it, like you admire him and that makes them valuable or
something?? (something not right there sport, only morons would ever wanna
collect shit like that heh...)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
The entire American reputation built up since emancipation of slavery
has just gone down the toilet. Probably forever.
### - don't talk such rot, go and read history to degree level before
commenting on something you clearly have no comprehension of beyond the
gutter press's account of same...
Post by thang ornerythinchus
You don't get it do you Brian? Too big for your little mind to
encompass. Then again, the UK thinks it can cut off links with
mainland Europe and escape unscathed. More stupidity from the
unwashed, unread, uneducated masses.
### - you're the one who doesn't get it sport, never did and never will,
the way you've chosen to live reveals all about you and your
non-understanding of this world and the way it 'actually' functions, you
quite obviously don't know shit about, well, anything really lol, monkey
see monkey do, that's you all over, and when things don't add up suddenly
you go ape/revert to type :)
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2016-11-09 16:41:36 UTC
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Post by allreadygone
Post by thang ornerythinchus
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
oh you're going to play the racist card, is that right?
i make fun of everyone, including myself.
when someone plays the racist card it
just means they are stuck in poor baby for life.
is that where you want to be?
by the way i don't give a fuck what dj trumpy does.
but you can worry for me ok? feel free eh?
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.

The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...

The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.

We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.

After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.

So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter. The leader of our country does matter.
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
slider
2016-11-09 18:01:21 UTC
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 16:41:36 -0000, Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter. The leader of our country does matter.
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
### - hahaha it's not the end of the world just... yet! no need to be
quite so broken-hearted - plus trust you to follow thang in hitting out
and blaming others? (lol when in doubt just start breaking up the place!
haha! :)

only thing's that's really changed around here perhaps being your 'own'
level of increased political awareness (and thus appreciation...) of
what's actually been going down on this planet for the longest time
really... it's all coming together quite nicely really in that regards
innit?

fyi, i do think it's the end of our planet and that's pretty scary shit
alright, but not just because of what's happened today but because of a
trend that's been continuing for simply ages, even 100's of years
actually... all this just being the next/latest in a series of similar
such down-trending tragedies and events in the history of our god forsaken
man-u-factured world...

there's nothing we (or anyone...) can really 'do' about it all, except
maybe dream and lie to ourselves that we can maybe achieve wonders in
small ways, plus am basically no better than you in that respect with my
crappy book in hoping that 'anything' could possibly ever change it or at
least improve things... there's just no 'improving' a slaughter house! lol

it IS a tragedy though! wallyworld is a tragedy! a kind of 'absurd'
tragedy? (the tragedy of the absurd perhaps!)

and all we can 'really' do is to 'know' that and stand back from it all!
active intelligent non-participation in crap!

try to live 'beside' the insane nightmare? (coz' let's face it, it ain't
gonna go away!)

or perhaps you'd prefer to go 'back' (into the matrix so to speak heh) and
the bliss of ignorance and ignorant participation?

you can always try anyway :)
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 22:48:19 UTC
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Post by slider
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 16:41:36 -0000, Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter. The leader of our country does matter.
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
### - hahaha it's not the end of the world just... yet! no need to be
quite so broken-hearted - plus trust you to follow thang in hitting out
and blaming others? (lol when in doubt just start breaking up the place!
haha! :)
This from an idiot holed up in his council flat in a state of delusion
who has been prattling on for the last 3 years or so about Russian
incitement of nuclear war and the imminent end of civilisation as we
know it. Now, it's "not the end of the world just yet" but Trump
after inauguration can start the end of the world with 4 minutes to
launch, at any time over the next 4 years.

Again, you've "turned on a sixpence". You don't have a position - you
change position on things from moment to moment as your birdlike brain
flits from subject to subject and superficial thought to superficial
thought.

Your mind is tiny and shrivelled Brian. It has never been properly
exercised and now I'm afraid it's far too late.
Post by slider
only thing's that's really changed around here perhaps being your 'own'
level of increased political awareness (and thus appreciation...) of
what's actually been going down on this planet for the longest time
really... it's all coming together quite nicely really in that regards
innit?
Patronising much, Brian? Generally people who are condescending (as
you almost always are) use that to disguise their insecurity and
inferiority. Nobody likes condescension but you use it all the time.

Learn this Brian: you are *not* better than anyone else here and in
fact, you are probably amongst the worst because you don't have a
position on anything. And if you make a position, its transient,
always transient and just made to suit your temporal ends.
Post by slider
fyi, i do think it's the end of our planet and that's pretty scary shit
alright, but not just because of what's happened today but because of a
trend that's been continuing for simply ages, even 100's of years
actually... all this just being the next/latest in a series of similar
such down-trending tragedies and events in the history of our god forsaken
man-u-factured world...
You love it when people fuck up Brian. You are Mr Schadenfreude
personified. You would like nothing better than for a big war to blow
up half the world and kill millions. You have a benighted soul. Trump
will pass (he's 70) and things will go on. The main damage here is to
America's reputation. That's what Dave and I agree on. A bunch of
white, uneducated rural rabble have gotten this prick into power and
even they will regret it - much the same demographic as propelled
Hitler into power in the early '30s (disaffected white supremist trash
who were too lazy to get a proper education and therefore knew nothing
about the consequences of electing a despot).
Post by slider
there's nothing we (or anyone...) can really 'do' about it all, except
maybe dream and lie to ourselves that we can maybe achieve wonders in
small ways, plus am basically no better than you in that respect with my
crappy book in hoping that 'anything' could possibly ever change it or at
least improve things... there's just no 'improving' a slaughter house! lol
Look at what the Russians did about Germany in 1943 at a little battle
called Kursk. And then in 1944 at an even smaller battle called
Bagration. And right up to 1945 when they (and not the Americans)
entered and conquered Berlin and Hitler put a slug into his head as he
chomped down on a capsule of prussic acid.

There's plenty you and I and Dave and others can do about it. Problem
is, I don't want to do anything about it. America needs to learn for
itself what it has done and go through a lot of pain and suffering
analogous to what a child goes through when it's caught by a parent
drawing on the walls with a texta. The only way to learn is by
mistakes. And this mistake is a FUCKING BIG ONE!!
Post by slider
it IS a tragedy though! wallyworld is a tragedy! a kind of 'absurd'
tragedy? (the tragedy of the absurd perhaps!)
So you start this rant off saying not the end of the world, no need to
be broken hearted and Dave and I are just hitting out, that's all. Now
in the same post, your schizophrenic and under-exercised mind say it
IS a tragedy, and below - it's an "insane nightmare"...all in the same
post. Fuck it Brian, how can anyone take you seriously when you lack
the self discipline to think in a straight line?
Post by slider
and all we can 'really' do is to 'know' that and stand back from it all!
active intelligent non-participation in crap!
try to live 'beside' the insane nightmare? (coz' let's face it, it ain't
gonna go away!)
or perhaps you'd prefer to go 'back' (into the matrix so to speak heh) and
the bliss of ignorance and ignorant participation?
you can always try anyway :)
Yep put a smiley face on it, she'll be right mate, no problem here,
move on, move on.

Stupid old git.
slider
2016-11-09 23:31:05 UTC
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 22:48:19 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 16:41:36 -0000, Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter. The leader of our country does matter.
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
### - hahaha it's not the end of the world just... yet! no need to be
quite so broken-hearted - plus trust you to follow thang in hitting out
and blaming others? (lol when in doubt just start breaking up the place!
haha! :)
This from an idiot holed up in his council flat in a state of delusion
who has been prattling on for the last 3 years or so about Russian
incitement of nuclear war and the imminent end of civilisation as we
know it. Now, it's "not the end of the world just yet" but Trump
after inauguration can start the end of the world with 4 minutes to
launch, at any time over the next 4 years.
Again, you've "turned on a sixpence". You don't have a position - you
change position on things from moment to moment as your birdlike brain
flits from subject to subject and superficial thought to superficial
thought.
Your mind is tiny and shrivelled Brian. It has never been properly
exercised and now I'm afraid it's far too late.
### - ahahahahaha! that's it with you innit... YOU don't understand so
your empty mind fills in the blanks with shit lol (he's just hurting and a
bit confused is all but i bet dave understands what am saying even if you
don't heh...)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
only thing's that's really changed around here perhaps being your 'own'
level of increased political awareness (and thus appreciation...) of
what's actually been going down on this planet for the longest time
really... it's all coming together quite nicely really in that regards
innit?
Patronising much, Brian? Generally people who are condescending (as
you almost always are) use that to disguise their insecurity and
inferiority. Nobody likes condescension but you use it all the time.
### - it just 'sounds' like that to you because you don't understand is
all, and you never will because you can't, your thinking is 'ruled' by
straight lines and anything with a curve in it seems/appears suspicious to
you... i mean, you can't really blame/hate people just because they can do
something you can't, it's completely ignorant to do so...
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Learn this Brian: you are *not* better than anyone else here and in
fact, you are probably amongst the worst because you don't have a
position on anything. And if you make a position, its transient,
always transient and just made to suit your temporal ends.
### - am an outsider thang (something else you will never be 'able' to
comprehend) and so you jeer and caterwaul at anything you don't
understand: THE most ignorant response of the lot!
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
fyi, i do think it's the end of our planet and that's pretty scary shit
alright, but not just because of what's happened today but because of a
trend that's been continuing for simply ages, even 100's of years
actually... all this just being the next/latest in a series of similar
such down-trending tragedies and events in the history of our god
forsaken man-u-factured world...
You love it when people fuck up Brian. You are Mr Schadenfreude
personified. You would like nothing better than for a big war to blow
up half the world and kill millions. You have a benighted soul. Trump
will pass (he's 70) and things will go on. The main damage here is to
America's reputation. That's what Dave and I agree on. A bunch of
white, uneducated rural rabble have gotten this prick into power and
even they will regret it - much the same demographic as propelled
Hitler into power in the early '30s (disaffected white supremist trash
who were too lazy to get a proper education and therefore knew nothing
about the consequences of electing a despot).
### - it's got nothing to do with what *i'd* like; the world is a certain
way because humanity is a certain way, one is the reflection of the other;
iow: WE 'built' all that crap! and IN all that crap you can discern
humanity's hand in it and what it's been up to and doing all along... if
you see a man walking inexorably towards an abyss wearing a blindfold you
don't have to be a genius to figure out that if he keeps walking in that
direction then he's gonna fall right in it... but one might have to be a
disinterested outsider to even be able to see/realise his dire and
handicapped situation in the first place... the irony of all this being
that YOU helped to make him MORE crazy not less, more blind, more greedy,
you ADDED to that quota of insanity! (and that is blindness indeed...)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
there's nothing we (or anyone...) can really 'do' about it all, except
maybe dream and lie to ourselves that we can maybe achieve wonders in
small ways, plus am basically no better than you in that respect with my
crappy book in hoping that 'anything' could possibly ever change it or at
least improve things... there's just no 'improving' a slaughter house! lol
Look at what the Russians did about Germany in 1943 at a little battle
called Kursk. And then in 1944 at an even smaller battle called
Bagration. And right up to 1945 when they (and not the Americans)
entered and conquered Berlin and Hitler put a slug into his head as he
chomped down on a capsule of prussic acid.
There's plenty you and I and Dave and others can do about it. Problem
is, I don't want to do anything about it. America needs to learn for
itself what it has done and go through a lot of pain and suffering
analogous to what a child goes through when it's caught by a parent
drawing on the walls with a texta. The only way to learn is by
mistakes. And this mistake is a FUCKING BIG ONE!!
### - hiroshima and nagasaki were far bigger mistakes me old son, for
those are chickens that could very well come home to roost! (they've been
pretty paranoid about that ever since then don'tcha know?)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
it IS a tragedy though! wallyworld is a tragedy! a kind of 'absurd'
tragedy? (the tragedy of the absurd perhaps!)
So you start this rant off saying not the end of the world, no need to
be broken hearted and Dave and I are just hitting out, that's all. Now
in the same post, your schizophrenic and under-exercised mind say it
IS a tragedy, and below - it's an "insane nightmare"...all in the same
post. Fuck it Brian, how can anyone take you seriously when you lack
the self discipline to think in a straight line?
### - all you've GOT is straight lines old buddy, i however am able to see
around corners heh and that just bugs the hell out of you innit heh... :)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
and all we can 'really' do is to 'know' that and stand back from it all!
active intelligent non-participation in crap!
try to live 'beside' the insane nightmare? (coz' let's face it, it ain't
gonna go away!)
or perhaps you'd prefer to go 'back' (into the matrix so to speak heh) and
the bliss of ignorance and ignorant participation?
you can always try anyway :)
Yep put a smiley face on it, she'll be right mate, no problem here,
move on, move on.
Stupid old git.
### - was actually trying to make him feel a bit better, but of course you
wont be able to understand that either hehehe... after all, all you can
ever see is a bunch of straight lines innit hah ;)
allreadygone
2016-11-09 18:07:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
I don't believe i ever said he was not.
I don't give a fuck what he is.
It's not 'my' problem per se.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.
Do you really think this is gonna happen?
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...
Thank you for pointing this out to me and reaffirming to
the world. I'm sure everyone is vitally interested in so.
The world being the 5 mofos that frequent this place (adc).
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.
I agree, women empowered i'm all for it.
They can have at it, i ain't stoppin' no one.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.
This remains to be seen. Don't be so sure of yourself.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.
So sez the man from Oklahoma, noted for the record.
He is no more racist than anyone else is.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter.
Thank you, that does get me off the hook now doesn't it? lol!

The leader of our country does matter.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
Oh Mr. Doomsday, predicting the future now are we?
I'd be watchin' out for old mr. pootytang over in
North Korean before anyone else in the world.
But then again, you can't stop what's coming can you?
BTW, i thought Mrs. Clinton gave a grand speech a little
while ago. Hasta la vista honey.
slider
2016-11-09 18:19:29 UTC
Permalink
allreadygone wrote...
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
I don't believe i ever said he was not.
I don't give a fuck what he is.
It's not 'my' problem per se.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.
Do you really think this is gonna happen?
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...
Thank you for pointing this out to me and reaffirming to
the world. I'm sure everyone is vitally interested in so.
The world being the 5 mofos that frequent this place (adc).
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.
I agree, women empowered i'm all for it.
They can have at it, i ain't stoppin' no one.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.
This remains to be seen. Don't be so sure of yourself.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.
So sez the man from Oklahoma, noted for the record.
He is no more racist than anyone else is.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter.
Thank you, that does get me off the hook now doesn't it? lol!
The leader of our country does matter.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
Oh Mr. Doomsday, predicting the future now are we?
I'd be watchin' out for old mr. pootytang over in
North Korean before anyone else in the world.
But then again, you can't stop what's coming can you?
BTW, i thought Mrs. Clinton gave a grand speech a little
while ago. Hasta la vista honey.
### - funny + good rebuttle :)

barkeep! 22 beers for all my broken-hearted fucked-up friends hahaha!

and wtf i'll have the same! ;)
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 23:09:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by slider
allreadygone wrote...
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
I don't believe i ever said he was not.
I don't give a fuck what he is.
It's not 'my' problem per se.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.
Do you really think this is gonna happen?
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...
Thank you for pointing this out to me and reaffirming to
the world. I'm sure everyone is vitally interested in so.
The world being the 5 mofos that frequent this place (adc).
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.
I agree, women empowered i'm all for it.
They can have at it, i ain't stoppin' no one.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.
This remains to be seen. Don't be so sure of yourself.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.
So sez the man from Oklahoma, noted for the record.
He is no more racist than anyone else is.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter.
Thank you, that does get me off the hook now doesn't it? lol!
The leader of our country does matter.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
Oh Mr. Doomsday, predicting the future now are we?
I'd be watchin' out for old mr. pootytang over in
North Korean before anyone else in the world.
But then again, you can't stop what's coming can you?
BTW, i thought Mrs. Clinton gave a grand speech a little
while ago. Hasta la vista honey.
### - funny + good rebuttle :)
Bwaahaahaha - what the FUCK is a "rebuttle"?

Moron.
Post by slider
barkeep! 22 beers for all my broken-hearted fucked-up friends hahaha!
and wtf i'll have the same! ;)
slider
2016-11-09 23:30:47 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 23:09:47 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
allreadygone wrote...
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
I don't believe i ever said he was not.
I don't give a fuck what he is.
It's not 'my' problem per se.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.
Do you really think this is gonna happen?
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...
Thank you for pointing this out to me and reaffirming to
the world. I'm sure everyone is vitally interested in so.
The world being the 5 mofos that frequent this place (adc).
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.
I agree, women empowered i'm all for it.
They can have at it, i ain't stoppin' no one.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.
This remains to be seen. Don't be so sure of yourself.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.
So sez the man from Oklahoma, noted for the record.
He is no more racist than anyone else is.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter.
Thank you, that does get me off the hook now doesn't it? lol!
The leader of our country does matter.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
Oh Mr. Doomsday, predicting the future now are we?
I'd be watchin' out for old mr. pootytang over in
North Korean before anyone else in the world.
But then again, you can't stop what's coming can you?
BTW, i thought Mrs. Clinton gave a grand speech a little
while ago. Hasta la vista honey.
### - funny + good rebuttle :)
Bwaahaahaha - what the FUCK is a "rebuttle"?
Moron.
### - noun: rebuttal; plural noun: rebuttals

an instance of rebutting evidence or an accusation.
synonyms: refutation, denial, disproving, counter-argument, countering,
invalidation, negation, contradiction...

and you call yourself educated?? duh :)
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 23:08:33 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:07:41 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
You need to have your feelings hurt. It's your reward for stupidity.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
I don't believe i ever said he was not.
I don't give a fuck what he is.
It's not 'my' problem per se.
What the fuck do you mean by "per se"? Now you're starting to sound
like Brian. And if it isn't your problem now, it fucking well soon
will be. Real soon. And then, you'll give a fuck.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.
Do you really think this is gonna happen?
Yep. It's what he said he would do, and Trump is the sort of man who
will do what he said. Get ready for midnight raids, special police,
basement interrogations, all of that 1930's and 1940's stuff, coming
right to your doorstep.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...
Thank you for pointing this out to me and reaffirming to
the world. I'm sure everyone is vitally interested in so.
The world being the 5 mofos that frequent this place (adc).
I'm no MFO you fucking idiot. Don't paint me with the brush you've
dipped in yourself. I'm nothing like you. I think and I make my
money from thinking. My tools of trade are my mind and my education.
I'm part formal education and part autodidact.

Sorry about the big words. Look 'em up if you know how.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.
I agree, women empowered i'm all for it.
They can have at it, i ain't stoppin' no one.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.
This remains to be seen. Don't be so sure of yourself.
I have more faith in his thought processes than yours. Dave patently
thinks and employs reason and logic. You don't. You don't even
employ grade school grammar and your syntax is all over the place.
It's as though you have brain damage. It's a fucking CHORE reading
your stuff and reading should never be a chore. So don't tell Dave not
to be so sure of himself when Trump and all he means is writ large and
bright for all to see.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.
So sez the man from Oklahoma, noted for the record.
He is no more racist than anyone else is.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter.
Thank you, that does get me off the hook now doesn't it? lol!
So now you're employing grammar? So that means that when you write
thos unparsed and non-grammatical bits of prose that's just an
affectation because, here, above, you use commas, full stops, question
marks and exclamation marks, even upper case starts to sentences and
spacing between sentences.

People who adopt affectations are false and transparent and generally
dull. I don't think you're an exception.
Post by allreadygone
The leader of our country does matter.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
Oh Mr. Doomsday, predicting the future now are we?
I'd be watchin' out for old mr. pootytang over in
North Korean before anyone else in the world.
But then again, you can't stop what's coming can you?
BTW, i thought Mrs. Clinton gave a grand speech a little
while ago. Hasta la vista honey.
Slider is the "Mr Doomsday" around here. I wouldn't be calling Dave
that. Every point he made above was valid and well thought out. You're
wrong and completely unpersuasive. And you don't give a shit until
the shit washes up to your front door. With Trump, you won't have
long to wait.

Then you will certainly care about stopping what's "coming to you" but
it will be too late.

A bit of verse from last century for you (Martin Niemoller):

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
slider
2016-11-09 23:41:33 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 23:08:33 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
Post by thang ornerythinchus
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:07:41 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
You need to have your feelings hurt. It's your reward for stupidity.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
I don't believe i ever said he was not.
I don't give a fuck what he is.
It's not 'my' problem per se.
What the fuck do you mean by "per se"? Now you're starting to sound
like Brian. And if it isn't your problem now, it fucking well soon
will be. Real soon. And then, you'll give a fuck.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.
Do you really think this is gonna happen?
Yep. It's what he said he would do, and Trump is the sort of man who
will do what he said. Get ready for midnight raids, special police,
basement interrogations, all of that 1930's and 1940's stuff, coming
right to your doorstep.
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...
Thank you for pointing this out to me and reaffirming to
the world. I'm sure everyone is vitally interested in so.
The world being the 5 mofos that frequent this place (adc).
I'm no MFO you fucking idiot. Don't paint me with the brush you've
dipped in yourself. I'm nothing like you. I think and I make my
money from thinking. My tools of trade are my mind and my education.
I'm part formal education and part autodidact.
Sorry about the big words. Look 'em up if you know how.
### - lol what was that you just lectured about people who're
condescending??

well eat it! :)))
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.
I agree, women empowered i'm all for it.
They can have at it, i ain't stoppin' no one.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.
This remains to be seen. Don't be so sure of yourself.
I have more faith in his thought processes than yours. Dave patently
thinks and employs reason and logic. You don't. You don't even
employ grade school grammar and your syntax is all over the place.
It's as though you have brain damage. It's a fucking CHORE reading
your stuff and reading should never be a chore. So don't tell Dave not=
to be so sure of himself when Trump and all he means is writ large and=
bright for all to see.
### - there's no rules about having to use grammar you condescending
ignorant twit lol :)))
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by allreadygone
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.
So sez the man from Oklahoma, noted for the record.
He is no more racist than anyone else is.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter.
Thank you, that does get me off the hook now doesn't it? lol!
So now you're employing grammar? So that means that when you write
thos unparsed and non-grammatical bits of prose that's just an
affectation because, here, above, you use commas, full stops, question=
marks and exclamation marks, even upper case starts to sentences and
spacing between sentences.
People who adopt affectations are false and transparent and generally
dull. I don't think you're an exception.
### - you just nailed yourself to the wall to perfection sport, how does=

it feeeeel! lol :)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by allreadygone
The leader of our country does matter.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
Oh Mr. Doomsday, predicting the future now are we?
I'd be watchin' out for old mr. pootytang over in
North Korean before anyone else in the world.
But then again, you can't stop what's coming can you?
BTW, i thought Mrs. Clinton gave a grand speech a little
while ago. Hasta la vista honey.
Slider is the "Mr Doomsday" around here. I wouldn't be calling Dave
that. Every point he made above was valid and well thought out. You're=
wrong and completely unpersuasive. And you don't give a shit until
the shit washes up to your front door. With Trump, you won't have
long to wait.
Then you will certainly care about stopping what's "coming to you" but=
it will be too late.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out=E2=80=94
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out=E2=80=94=
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out=E2=80=94
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me=E2=80=94and there was no one left to speak for m=
e."

### - it's no wonder you love to accuse others of what you yourself are
guilty of; you are sooo condescending it's unreal :)))
allreadygone
2016-11-10 03:31:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by thang ornerythinchus
You need to have your feelings hurt. It's your reward for stupidity.
dude i've had more feeling hurt in one year than you'll ever have
in your whole chicken-shit lifetime. I don't want to hear it so fuck off.
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Yep. It's what he said he would do, and Trump is the sort of man who
will do what he said. Get ready for midnight raids, special police,
basement interrogations, all of that 1930's and 1940's stuff, coming
right to your doorstep.
you've watched too many cheap shit movies and read
bullshit fictional pulp fiction nightmares. Really ?
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by thang ornerythinchus
The re
I'm no MFO you fucking idiot. Don't paint me with the brush you've
dipped in yourself. I'm nothing like you. I think and I make my
money from thinking. My tools of trade are my mind and my education.
I'm part formal education and part autodidact.
I have more faith in his thought processes than yours. Dave patently
thinks and employs reason and logic. You don't. You don't even
employ grade school grammar and your syntax is all over the place.
It's as though you have brain damage. It's a fucking CHORE reading
your stuff and reading should never be a chore. So don't tell Dave not
to be so sure of himself when Trump and all he means is writ large and
bright for all to see.
so don't read it, no one is holding a gun to your head are they?
as though your criticism means anything, you're talking to a mirror.
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Slider is the "Mr Doomsday" around here. I wouldn't be calling Dave
that. Every point he made above was valid and well thought out. You're
wrong and completely unpersuasive. And you don't give a shit until
the shit washes up to your front door. With Trump, you won't have
long to wait.
what makes any of this personal? i don't get it.
how can i possibily be responsible for something
someone else does? That's insane. You're insane
IF you believe that shit. You sound like someone
has torqued your head around a little, well have they ?
slider
2016-11-10 05:07:07 UTC
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allreadygone wrote...
Post by allreadygone
what makes any of this personal? i don't get it.
how can i possibily be responsible for something
someone else does? That's insane. You're insane
IF you believe that shit. You sound like someone
has torqued your head around a little, well have they ?
### - aw c'mon, surely you see how it's personal by now??

you 'american' dudes just put the 'antichrist' right into the white house
for christsakes, and he's gonna destroy the planet! and planet-wide
everyone is now scared shiteless worrying about it all and everything and,
and, and, well SOMEONE'S gotta be blamed for all this shit innit!!!
(cracking up laffing :)))

so why not you? you're as good as anyone to blame aren't ya? you're
american ain'tcha?

well then! that'll do perfect! (we got one!!! yaaay...)

string him up now shall we thang and then go get another one?

after all, anything's better than facing reality innit!

anger keeps it all at bay! denial is easier than being here now!

better than dealing with the reality of our true life situation!

better than admitting to our own pain!

to our... fear! fear of the unknown and of the unpredictable!

it's just better to have a... plan!

some 'idea' of what we all think we're all... doing!

or supposed to be doing heh :)

you know, a 'conception' of life rather than real life itself?

a not so threatening version perhaps!

yeah that's it... a 'non-threatening' concept of life and living!

oh we'll throw in a bit of conceptualised 'danger' just to make it all a
bit more realistic and everything heh, just nothing too heavy right?
nothing too... immediate

else we'll be all forced to address it all the time and that'd be a drag,
a real downer man!

nah, we just wanna live and not really BE real yeah?

it's easier that way!

and if anyone comes along trying to pop our bubble or tell us any
different then, well...

we'll jus' run 'em right outta' town wont we, simple!

now i think someone should write this all down in fine detail so we can
remember all the rules yeah?

yeah... ;)
allreadygone
2016-11-10 19:29:46 UTC
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life goes on, with you or without you.

get over it.
Jeremy H. Donovan
2016-11-10 20:51:59 UTC
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I'm not sure how much Trump will actually
be able to accomplish, good or bad.
Agreeing with Thang - the primary damage
will be:

1) important things we needed to finish
that now won't get finished, like
improving the ACA, finalizing
environmental protections, pushing
expanded alternate energy.

2) our nation's reputation, for electing
a classless clown with no substance.
And I do find it embarrassing, even
though I did my best to prevent it.

3) A devastated economy that merely once
again just makes rich people richer.

4) rolling back important freedoms,
like roe v wade and marriage equality.

5) possible serious acts of aggression
internationally.

6) minimal budgets for science.

In my opinion, these people are trying
to live in the past - a past that never
was all that glorious anyway. And it
won't work. All they are really doing is
regressing, thereby delaying the future
we really need to shoot for.

The delay may cost us dearly as a nation.

Worst case, it may cause massive
destruction. Oh well...

You got what you wanted dumbfucks.
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2016-11-11 00:36:41 UTC
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Senator Elizabeth Warren sent me an e-mail spelling out what
will probably be the Democrats strategy for awhile:

***

This wasn’t a pretty election. In fact, it was ugly, and we should not sugarcoat the reason why. Donald Trump ran a campaign that started with racial attacks and then rode the escalator down. He encouraged a toxic stew of hatred and fear. He attacked millions of Americans. And he regularly made statements that undermined core values of our democracy.

And he won. He won – and now Latino and Muslim-American children are worried about what will happen to their families. LGBT couples are worried that their marriages could be dissolved by a Trump-Pence Supreme Court. Women are worried that their access to desperately needed health services will disappear. Millions of people in this country are worried, deeply worried. And they are right to be worried.

Today, as President-Elect, Donald Trump has an opportunity to chart a different course: to govern for all Americans and to respect our institutions. In his victory speech, he pledged that he would be “President for all” of the American people. And when he takes the oath of office as the leader of our democracy and the leader of all Americans, I sincerely hope that he will fulfill that pledge with respect and concern for every single human being in this country, no matter who they are, no matter where they come from, no matter what they believe, no matter whom they love.

And that marks Democrats’ first job in this new era: We will stand up to bigotry. There is no compromise here. In all its forms, we will fight back against attacks on Latinos, African Americans, women, Muslims, immigrants, disabled Americans – on anyone. Whether Donald Trump sits in a glass tower or sits in the White House, we will not give an inch on this, not now, not ever.

But there are many millions of people who did not vote for Donald Trump because of the bigotry and hate that fueled his campaign rallies. They voted for him despite the hate. They voted for him out of frustration and anger – and also out of hope that he would bring change.

If we have learned nothing else from the past two years of electioneering, we should hear the message loud and clear that the American people want Washington to change. It was clear in the Democratic Primaries. It was clear in the Republican Primaries. It was clear in the campaign and it was clear on Election Day. The final results may have divided us – but the entire electorate embraced deep, fundamental reform of our economic system and our political system.

Working families across this country are deeply frustrated about an economy and a government that doesn’t work for them. Exit polling on Tuesday found that 72 percent of voters believe that "the American economy is rigged to advantage the rich and powerful." 72 percent of ALL voters – Democrats and Republicans. The polls were also made clear that the economy was the top issue on voters’ minds. Americans are angry about a federal government that works for the rich and powerful and that leaves everyone else in the dirt.

Lobbyists and Washington insiders have spent years trying to convince themselves and each other that Americans don’t actually believe this. Now that the returns are in and the people have spoken, they’re already trying to wave their hands and dismiss these views as some sort of mass delusion. They are wrong – very wrong.

The truth is that people are right to be angry. Angry that wages have been stagnant for a generation, while basic costs like housing, health care, and child care have skyrocketed. Angry that our political system is awash in barely legalized campaign bribery. Angry that Washington eagerly protects tax breaks for billionaires while it refuses to raise the minimum wage, or help the millions of Americans struggling with student loans, or enforce the law when the millionaire CEOs who fund our political campaigns break it. Angry that Washington pushes big corporate interests in trade deals, but won’t make the investments in infrastructure to create good jobs right here in America. Angry that Washington tilts the playing field for giant corporations – giving them special privileges, letting them amass enormous economic and political power.

Angry that while Washington dithers and spins and does the backstroke in an ocean of money, while the American Dream moves further and further out of reach for too many families. Angry that working people are in debt. Angry that seniors can’t stretch a Social Security check to cover the basics.

President-Elect Trump spoke to these issues. Republican elites hated him for it. But he didn’t care. He criticized Wall Street and big money’s dominance in Washington – straight up. He supported a new Glass-Steagall. He spoke of the need to reform our trade deals so they aren’t raw deals for the American people. He said he will not cut Social Security benefits. He talked about the need to address the rising cost of college and about helping working parents struggling with the high cost of child care. He spoke of the urgency of rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure and putting people back to work. He spoke to the very real sense of millions of Americans that their government and their economy has abandoned them. And he promised to rebuild our economy for working people.

The deep worry that people feel over an America that does not work for them is not liberal or conservative worry. It is not Democratic or Republican worry. It is the deep worry that led even Americans with very deep reservations about Donald Trump’s temperament and fitness to vote for him anyway.

So let me be 100% clear about this. When President-Elect Trump wants to take on these issues, when his goal is to increase the economic security of middle class families, then count me in. I will put aside our differences and I will work with him to accomplish that goal. I offer to work as hard as I can and to pull as many people as I can into this effort. If Trump is ready to go on rebuilding economic security for millions of Americans, so am I and so are a lot of other people—Democrats and Republicans.

But let’s also be clear about what rebuilding our economy does not mean.

It does not mean handing the keys to our economy over to Wall Street so they can run it for themselves. Americans want to hold the big banks accountable. That will not happen if we gut Dodd-Frank and fire the cops responsible for watching over those banks, like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. If Trump and the Republican Party try to turn loose the big banks and financial institutions so they can once again gamble with our economy and bring it all crashing down, then we will fight them every step of the way.

It does not mean crippling our economy and ripping working families apart by rounding up and deporting millions of our coworkers, our friends and neighbors, our mothers and fathers, our sons and daughters. And if Republicans choose that path, we will fight them every single step of the way.

Americans want reform to Obamacare – Democrats included. We must bring down the costs of health insurance and the cost of health care. But if the Republicans want to strip away health insurance from 20 million Americans, if they want to let cancer survivors get kicked to the curb, if they want to throw 24-year-olds off their parents’ health insurance, then we will fight them every step of the way.

Americans want to close tax loopholes that benefit the very rich, and Donald Trump claimed to support closing the carried interest loophole and other loopholes. We need a fairer tax system, but if Republicans want to force through massive tax breaks that blow a hole in our deficit and tilt the playing field even further toward the wealthy and big corporations, then we will fight them every step of the way.

The American people – Democrats, Republicans, and Independents – have been clear about what economic policies they want Washington to pursue. Two-thirds of people support raising the federal minimum wage. Three-quarters of Americans want the federal government to increase its infrastructure investments. Over 70 percent of people believe students should have a chance at a debt-free education. Nearly three-quarters support expanding Social Security. These are the kinds of policies that will help level the playing field for working families and address the frustrations felt by millions of people across the country.

The American people sent one more message as well. Economic reform requires political reform. Why has the federal government worked so long only for those at the top? The answer is money – and they want this system changed. The American people are sick of politicians wallowing in the campaign contributions and dark money. They are revolted by influence peddling by wealthy people and giant corporations. When Bernie Sanders proved his independence by running a campaign based on small dollar contributions and when Donald Trump promised to spend his own money, both were sending an important message that they could not be bought. And once again, if Donald Trump is ready to make good on his promise to get corruption out of politics, to end dark money and pay-to-play, count me in. I will work as hard as I can and to pull as many people as I can to end the influence of big money and return democracy to the people.

Donald Trump won the Presidency under a Republican flag. But Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and the Republicans in Congress – and their way of doing business – were rejected – rejected by their own primary voters, rejected during the campaign, and rejected in Tuesday’s election. Regardless of political party, working families are disgusted by a Washington that works for the rich and powerful and leaves everyone else behind.

The American people have called out loudly for economic and political reform. For years, too many Republicans and too many Democrats have refused to hear their demands.

The majority of Americans voted against Donald Trump. Democrats picked up seats in both the House and the Senate. And yet, here we are. Republicans are in control of both houses of Congress and the White House. And that makes our job clear. As the loyal opposition we will fight harder, we will fight longer and we will fight more passionately than ever for the rights of every human being in this country to be treated with respect and dignity. We will fight for economic opportunity, not just for some of our children, but for all of our children. We do not control the tools of government, but make no mistake, we know what we stand for, the sun will keep rising, and we will keep fighting – each day, every day, we will fight for the people of this country.

The time for ignoring the American people is over. It’s time for us to come together to work on America’s agenda. Democracy demands that we do so, and we are ready.

Thank you for being a part of this,

Elizabeth
wildheart
2016-11-11 13:19:38 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Senator Elizabeth Warren sent me an e-mail spelling out what
Wow, what a letter! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I love her, she is amazing and gives me hope that not all is lost.
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
***
This wasn’t a pretty election. In fact, it was ugly, and we should not sugarcoat the reason why. Donald Trump ran a campaign that started with racial attacks and then rode the escalator down. He encouraged a toxic stew of hatred and fear. He attacked millions of Americans. And he regularly made statements that undermined core values of our democracy.
And he won. He won – and now Latino and Muslim-American children are worried about what will happen to their families. LGBT couples are worried that their marriages could be dissolved by a Trump-Pence Supreme Court. Women are worried that their access to desperately needed health services will disappear. Millions of people in this country are worried, deeply worried. And they are right to be worried.
Today, as President-Elect, Donald Trump has an opportunity to chart a different course: to govern for all Americans and to respect our institutions. In his victory speech, he pledged that he would be “President for all” of the American people. And when he takes the oath of office as the leader of our democracy and the leader of all Americans, I sincerely hope that he will fulfill that pledge with respect and concern for every single human being in this country, no matter who they are, no matter where they come from, no matter what they believe, no matter whom they love.
And that marks Democrats’ first job in this new era: We will stand up to bigotry. There is no compromise here. In all its forms, we will fight back against attacks on Latinos, African Americans, women, Muslims, immigrants, disabled Americans – on anyone. Whether Donald Trump sits in a glass tower or sits in the White House, we will not give an inch on this, not now, not ever.
But there are many millions of people who did not vote for Donald Trump because of the bigotry and hate that fueled his campaign rallies. They voted for him despite the hate. They voted for him out of frustration and anger – and also out of hope that he would bring change.
If we have learned nothing else from the past two years of electioneering, we should hear the message loud and clear that the American people want Washington to change. It was clear in the Democratic Primaries. It was clear in the Republican Primaries. It was clear in the campaign and it was clear on Election Day. The final results may have divided us – but the entire electorate embraced deep, fundamental reform of our economic system and our political system.
Working families across this country are deeply frustrated about an economy and a government that doesn’t work for them. Exit polling on Tuesday found that 72 percent of voters believe that "the American economy is rigged to advantage the rich and powerful." 72 percent of ALL voters – Democrats and Republicans. The polls were also made clear that the economy was the top issue on voters’ minds. Americans are angry about a federal government that works for the rich and powerful and that leaves everyone else in the dirt.
Lobbyists and Washington insiders have spent years trying to convince themselves and each other that Americans don’t actually believe this. Now that the returns are in and the people have spoken, they’re already trying to wave their hands and dismiss these views as some sort of mass delusion. They are wrong – very wrong.
The truth is that people are right to be angry. Angry that wages have been stagnant for a generation, while basic costs like housing, health care, and child care have skyrocketed. Angry that our political system is awash in barely legalized campaign bribery. Angry that Washington eagerly protects tax breaks for billionaires while it refuses to raise the minimum wage, or help the millions of Americans struggling with student loans, or enforce the law when the millionaire CEOs who fund our political campaigns break it. Angry that Washington pushes big corporate interests in trade deals, but won’t make the investments in infrastructure to create good jobs right here in America. Angry that Washington tilts the playing field for giant corporations – giving them special privileges, letting them amass enormous economic and political power.
Angry that while Washington dithers and spins and does the backstroke in an ocean of money, while the American Dream moves further and further out of reach for too many families. Angry that working people are in debt. Angry that seniors can’t stretch a Social Security check to cover the basics.
President-Elect Trump spoke to these issues. Republican elites hated him for it. But he didn’t care. He criticized Wall Street and big money’s dominance in Washington – straight up. He supported a new Glass-Steagall. He spoke of the need to reform our trade deals so they aren’t raw deals for the American people. He said he will not cut Social Security benefits. He talked about the need to address the rising cost of college and about helping working parents struggling with the high cost of child care. He spoke of the urgency of rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure and putting people back to work. He spoke to the very real sense of millions of Americans that their government and their economy has abandoned them. And he promised to rebuild our economy for working people.
The deep worry that people feel over an America that does not work for them is not liberal or conservative worry. It is not Democratic or Republican worry. It is the deep worry that led even Americans with very deep reservations about Donald Trump’s temperament and fitness to vote for him anyway.
So let me be 100% clear about this. When President-Elect Trump wants to take on these issues, when his goal is to increase the economic security of middle class families, then count me in. I will put aside our differences and I will work with him to accomplish that goal. I offer to work as hard as I can and to pull as many people as I can into this effort. If Trump is ready to go on rebuilding economic security for millions of Americans, so am I and so are a lot of other people—Democrats and Republicans.
But let’s also be clear about what rebuilding our economy does not mean.
It does not mean handing the keys to our economy over to Wall Street so they can run it for themselves. Americans want to hold the big banks accountable. That will not happen if we gut Dodd-Frank and fire the cops responsible for watching over those banks, like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. If Trump and the Republican Party try to turn loose the big banks and financial institutions so they can once again gamble with our economy and bring it all crashing down, then we will fight them every step of the way.
It does not mean crippling our economy and ripping working families apart by rounding up and deporting millions of our coworkers, our friends and neighbors, our mothers and fathers, our sons and daughters. And if Republicans choose that path, we will fight them every single step of the way.
Americans want reform to Obamacare – Democrats included. We must bring down the costs of health insurance and the cost of health care. But if the Republicans want to strip away health insurance from 20 million Americans, if they want to let cancer survivors get kicked to the curb, if they want to throw 24-year-olds off their parents’ health insurance, then we will fight them every step of the way.
Americans want to close tax loopholes that benefit the very rich, and Donald Trump claimed to support closing the carried interest loophole and other loopholes. We need a fairer tax system, but if Republicans want to force through massive tax breaks that blow a hole in our deficit and tilt the playing field even further toward the wealthy and big corporations, then we will fight them every step of the way.
The American people – Democrats, Republicans, and Independents – have been clear about what economic policies they want Washington to pursue. Two-thirds of people support raising the federal minimum wage. Three-quarters of Americans want the federal government to increase its infrastructure investments. Over 70 percent of people believe students should have a chance at a debt-free education. Nearly three-quarters support expanding Social Security. These are the kinds of policies that will help level the playing field for working families and address the frustrations felt by millions of people across the country.
The American people sent one more message as well. Economic reform requires political reform. Why has the federal government worked so long only for those at the top? The answer is money – and they want this system changed. The American people are sick of politicians wallowing in the campaign contributions and dark money. They are revolted by influence peddling by wealthy people and giant corporations. When Bernie Sanders proved his independence by running a campaign based on small dollar contributions and when Donald Trump promised to spend his own money, both were sending an important message that they could not be bought. And once again, if Donald Trump is ready to make good on his promise to get corruption out of politics, to end dark money and pay-to-play, count me in. I will work as hard as I can and to pull as many people as I can to end the influence of big money and return democracy to the people.
Donald Trump won the Presidency under a Republican flag. But Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan and the Republicans in Congress – and their way of doing business – were rejected – rejected by their own primary voters, rejected during the campaign, and rejected in Tuesday’s election. Regardless of political party, working families are disgusted by a Washington that works for the rich and powerful and leaves everyone else behind.
The American people have called out loudly for economic and political reform. For years, too many Republicans and too many Democrats have refused to hear their demands.
The majority of Americans voted against Donald Trump. Democrats picked up seats in both the House and the Senate. And yet, here we are. Republicans are in control of both houses of Congress and the White House. And that makes our job clear. As the loyal opposition we will fight harder, we will fight longer and we will fight more passionately than ever for the rights of every human being in this country to be treated with respect and dignity. We will fight for economic opportunity, not just for some of our children, but for all of our children. We do not control the tools of government, but make no mistake, we know what we stand for, the sun will keep rising, and we will keep fighting – each day, every day, we will fight for the people of this country.
The time for ignoring the American people is over. It’s time for us to come together to work on America’s agenda. Democracy demands that we do so, and we are ready.
Thank you for being a part of this,
Elizabeth
allreadygone
2016-11-11 15:58:52 UTC
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how does it feel?

how does it feel to be naive?

that is the question for the time.

we didn't see this coming did we? (trump winning that is)

we won't get fooled again will we?
allreadygone
2016-11-11 23:28:02 UTC
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Christ trumpy is already the stalking the
position of ObamaCare. He wants to make
a deal already. Who trusts who here?
Jeremy H. Denisovan
2016-11-12 21:06:13 UTC
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Post by allreadygone
Christ trumpy is already the stalking the
position of ObamaCare. He wants to make
a deal already. Who trusts who here?
Trump is liable to do almost anything he thinks will keep
him in power. He's not really a Republican or a Democrat.
He's mainly just out to get and hold power for himself.
So if he perceives that any action would turn huge numbers
of people against him, he will readily change his position.

That's why he's holding onto some of the principles
of Obamacare. Because if he tore them down, it would
make him literally millions more enemies overnight.
And he knows that.

Watch this. It's really well done, and hilarious.
You can just click "Not Now" to the Facebook login
and it will still play.

http://tinyurl.com/gwj2aby
wildheart
2016-11-13 14:10:12 UTC
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Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by allreadygone
Christ trumpy is already the stalking the
position of ObamaCare. He wants to make
a deal already. Who trusts who here?
Trump is liable to do almost anything he thinks will keep
him in power. He's not really a Republican or a Democrat.
He's mainly just out to get and hold power for himself.
So if he perceives that any action would turn huge numbers
of people against him, he will readily change his position.
That's why he's holding onto some of the principles
of Obamacare. Because if he tore them down, it would
make him literally millions more enemies overnight.
And he knows that.
Watch this. It's really well done, and hilarious.
You can just click "Not Now" to the Facebook login
and it will still play.
http://tinyurl.com/gwj2aby
OMG, that was so funny! The machine that gives them an invoice/bill, hilarious!
The petition is going strong, almost 4 million signs, and I heard there was another one out there.
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 22:29:57 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 08:41:36 -0800 (PST), "Jeremy H. Denisovan"
Post by Jeremy H. Denisovan
Post by allreadygone
Post by thang ornerythinchus
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
oh you're going to play the racist card, is that right?
i make fun of everyone, including myself.
when someone plays the racist card it
just means they are stuck in poor baby for life.
is that where you want to be?
by the way i don't give a fuck what dj trumpy does.
but you can worry for me ok? feel free eh?
Racism is not just "a card to be played". It's a
terrible problem, as is misogyny. And Trump IS racist.
He literally wants to go door to door like the
Gestapo deporting millions of Mexicans.
He also wants to exclude all the Muslims.
The reason you don't give a fuck what Trump does is
similar to the reason a bunch of ignorant rural white
folk elected him: you're mostly *shallow as fuck*. :)
And always have been...
The World Health Organization is correct in believing that
the best road to solving many serious world problems is
to empower women to the greatest extent possible.
We just turned away from such a road, onto a road
where a misogynist is now the leader of what used
to be the most powerful country in the world.
After having our first black president, the back lash -
what some are calling the "white lash" - is such that
the current president of the United States IS a racist.
So who gives a tiny shit if YOU are a racist or not?
You don't matter. The leader of our country does matter.
This is something perhaps even you are about to learn,
probably in the most horrific possible way...
Thank you. My respect for you is climbing. You have a brain and a
mind and you are using both. For once, Dave, I could'nt agree more
with you.
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 22:12:56 UTC
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 06:38:07 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
Post by allreadygone
Post by thang ornerythinchus
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
oh you're going to play the racist card, is that right?
i make fun of everyone, including myself.
No you don't, you hide behind that bullshit when you're outed as the
bigot you are. I know you didn't vote Trump and possibly didn't vote
at all (which is even worse when evil such as Trump looms) but this is
a blazing indictment of your entire country my friend. And your
harping on about the drop in the Peso stinks by the way.
Post by allreadygone
when someone plays the racist card it
just means they are stuck in poor baby for life.
You're on the way to the rocker chair pal. I don't have a clue what
you're waffling on about (stuck in poor baby for life? WTF is that
about).
Post by allreadygone
is that where you want to be?
by the way i don't give a fuck what dj trumpy does.
Oh you'll give a fuck all right. You *live* there mate. You're
always going on about how great America is, don't fuck with America
etc etc. Come back after 12 months of Trump and we'll see what you've
got to say about it then.
Post by allreadygone
but you can worry for me ok? feel free eh?
I give as much a shit about you as you do about me. Which is
zero.zero zero.
allreadygone
2016-11-09 22:17:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by thang ornerythinchus
I give as much a shit about you as you do about me. Which is
zero.zero zero.
good to see we are on the same page then.
Bingo, give that man a cigar Dave. lol!
slider
2016-11-09 14:39:55 UTC
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Post by thang ornerythinchus
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 05:31:49 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
Post by allreadygone
mexico is fucked.
poor bastards.
peso blew below 10%.
let's see today where it lands
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
Alas, America, what just happened to you? Once great, now just a
shadow of its former self.
Guarantee you don't have a college degree right?
### - fuckin' idiot hahahaha... Chris ain't no racist you arsehole!

it's no good taking it out on OTHER people: YOU! and people like you! ARE
the reason this planet's going down the drain!

Guarantee you don't have a heart right? or eyes! or a brain either
apparently! so much for modern man then eh? riiight...

what GOOD are YOU to this planet??

nada! just another fucking blood sucking leech on the backside of
humanity! quaffing your napoleon brandy, taking exotic vacations, and
congratulating yourself every time another human being at the bottom of
your road literally starves to death!

and i bet you're proud of yourself too innit lol...

you're a mini-trump thang! you should be pleased he won!

trump is your god! you were made in the image of him!

so don't start pretending you're a human being now, it's embarrassing!

Coriolis effect?? ain't no hole deep enough in which you can hide from it
all now sport, being a very important and strategic nuclear lookout radar
post; oz will be one of the very first places to go! (gud!)

the tragedy of it all is you'll never even see it coming... :)
thang ornerythinchus
2016-11-09 23:47:17 UTC
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Post by thang ornerythinchus
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 05:31:49 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
Post by allreadygone
mexico is fucked.
poor bastards.
peso blew below 10%.
let's see today where it lands
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
Alas, America, what just happened to you? Once great, now just a
shadow of its former self.
Guarantee you don't have a college degree right?
### - fuckin' idiot hahahaha... Chris ain't no racist you arsehole!
I'm most certainly not an idiot. Unlike you. And he is a racist, just
read his crap about Mexicans, North Koreans and so on. Worse than
that, he's some sort of war mongerer lusting for a dust off anyone.

Got a college degree Brian? When you get one, and I warn you it is
hard work, come back and I'll revise my opinion of you. Until then,
you stand as a fucking complete unthinking moron.
Post by slider
it's no good taking it out on OTHER people: YOU! and people like you! ARE
the reason this planet's going down the drain!
No it's welfare parasites like you who stay holed up in their council
flats paid for by industrious people who, unlike you, can actually
cope with life and all of its ups and downs.

You suck the blood out of the organism and moan and whinge about this
and that, but never do anything about it. You never stand your
ground. You never make a position and stick with it. Your thoughts
are nebulous and unconvincing. You can't make an argument.

You probably voted for Brexit.
Post by slider
Guarantee you don't have a heart right? or eyes! or a brain either
apparently! so much for modern man then eh? riiight...
I work and earn a crust and visit other countries and have a lot of
fun and inject my money into relatively impoverished economies. I
have 7 grandchildren the majority of whom love me. I have a marriage
which has lasted over 40 years and still going stronger than ever. All
of that with no heart, no eyes, no brain? See what I mean Brian, you
seem to speak in useful metaphors but when one analyses your comments
they turn out to be so much dust and spray. Nothing of consequence.

People like you stand on the sidelines of life and throw insults
interjections and suggestions. But never do they, or you, do anything
constructive. You are simply a failure at life. Your marriage broke
down, your kids don't talk to you anymore and you're in the throes of
poverty and malnutrition. Doesn't take a genius to work that out.
Post by slider
what GOOD are YOU to this planet??
I'm a product of this planet and I'm part of this planet. Most if not
all of my substance *was* this planet before it became *me* and when I
die, I'll return to this planet. We are just ambulatory parts of the
planet living in the lithosphere and we are part of the planet which
is itself part of a system of moving parts called the solar system
which is itself part of another larger system of moving parts called
the Via Lacta which is itself part of another system of moving parts
called Laniakea which is itself part of another much larger system of
moving parts called ... Universe.

Very little we do at the local level affects anything beyond that. But
I do more than you and most of what I do creates benefits of which I
don't need to persuade you. Because I generally don't care what you
think.
Post by slider
nada! just another fucking blood sucking leech on the backside of
humanity! quaffing your napoleon brandy, taking exotic vacations, and
congratulating yourself every time another human being at the bottom of
your road literally starves to death!
That's a good one. Calling me a blood sucking leech when I have paid
my way since childhood. What about you Brian? How's those welfare
cheques and council subsidised flat going? When was the last time you
went out into the world and traded your skills for money and created?

Apart from an undersubscribed "book" about dreaming by the world's
expert dreamer :)
Post by slider
and i bet you're proud of yourself too innit lol...
Well, yeah. Aren't you? Part of survival is being proud of oneself
and loving one's self and organism. It's called the life force. When
you lose that you are no use to anyone or anything. You lost your
life force a long, long time ago evidently.

What's "innit" by the way?
Post by slider
you're a mini-trump thang! you should be pleased he won!
Nope. I'm a libertarian and self made person. I believe in personal
freedom and the absence of other people telling me what to do. I
despise authority. I love and respect women and do not feel threatened
by them, in fact I like women much more than most men.

Therefore, I despise Trump and hope the cunt dies of a stroke. He
certainly looks like a high blood pressure type.
Post by slider
trump is your god! you were made in the image of him!
At fear of repeating myself, you're a fucking moron.
Post by slider
so don't start pretending you're a human being now, it's embarrassing!
What? I'm not a member of homo sapiens sapiens? Are you insane?
Post by slider
Coriolis effect?? ain't no hole deep enough in which you can hide from it
all now sport, being a very important and strategic nuclear lookout radar
post; oz will be one of the very first places to go! (gud!)
Have you got any idea just how big Australia is Brian? If you placed
Perth, where I live, on London, Sydney would be around where Moscow
is. It's as wide as the continental USA.

You're talking about Pine Gap which is 3600km from Perth. Perth
itself is 3940km from Sydney and 4400km from Brisbane. Once I
hitchhiked from Cairns to Perth, it took me 3 weeks part of which was
over >1000km of unpaved desert road, sleeping at night under the stars
with no human being anywhere closer than hundreds of km. A nuclear
weapon on Pine Gap will incinerate a few spinifex and the installation
- that's about all.

Nuclear war only in its final throes destroys population centres.
Before then, nucdets hit only force and counterforce (eg most of the
middle of the US will be hit hundreds of times to try to take out the
missile fields of Kansas and so on before they can be fired, unless
Trump orders a first strike). So, here in Perth, thousands of KM away
from practically anything, we aren't a major target.

Unlike London on that little island you call Britain where there will
be hundreds of nucdets right in your backyard :)
Post by slider
the tragedy of it all is you'll never even see it coming... :)
You want me to see it coming? Your sadism knows no bounds. You are a
deep fried cunt.

And you don't even see that about yourself. That, my friend, is a
tragedy.
allreadygone
2016-11-10 00:14:11 UTC
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your writing doesn't have the ring of
sincerity, sorry. but you keep tryin'.
maybe someday you'll get it right.
hint: all your emotions color your
perception. clean up boy and pull your
head out of your ass.
slider
2016-11-10 01:27:51 UTC
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2016 23:47:17 -0000, thang ornerythinchus
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
Post by thang ornerythinchus
On Wed, 9 Nov 2016 05:31:49 -0800 (PST), allreadygone
Post by allreadygone
mexico is fucked.
poor bastards.
peso blew below 10%.
let's see today where it lands
So you're a racist as well you old cunt. Most of the damage this
imbecile is going to do is to your own country mate. The reputation
of you and your cuntrymen has just dropped into the low negatives.
Alas, America, what just happened to you? Once great, now just a
shadow of its former self.
Guarantee you don't have a college degree right?
### - fuckin' idiot hahahaha... Chris ain't no racist you arsehole!
I'm most certainly not an idiot. Unlike you. And he is a racist, just
read his crap about Mexicans, North Koreans and so on. Worse than
that, he's some sort of war mongerer lusting for a dust off anyone.
Got a college degree Brian? When you get one, and I warn you it is
hard work, come back and I'll revise my opinion of you. Until then,
you stand as a fucking complete unthinking moron.
### - have the equivalent of a Ph.D in literature, history and philosophy,
does that count? ;P
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
it's no good taking it out on OTHER people: YOU! and people like you! ARE
the reason this planet's going down the drain!
No it's welfare parasites like you who stay holed up in their council
flats paid for by industrious people who, unlike you, can actually
cope with life and all of its ups and downs.
You suck the blood out of the organism and moan and whinge about this
and that, but never do anything about it. You never stand your
ground. You never make a position and stick with it. Your thoughts
are nebulous and unconvincing. You can't make an argument.
You probably voted for Brexit.
### - ahahaha! still living entirely in your own fantasy world thang? what
you don't know for sure you fill in with negatives in the hope of hitting
something, anything! no true aim just scatter-gunning the near vicinity in
the hope of 'maybe' hitting something because you're blind (quite sad
actually, pitiful...)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
Guarantee you don't have a heart right? or eyes! or a brain either
apparently! so much for modern man then eh? riiight...
I work and earn a crust and visit other countries and have a lot of
fun and inject my money into relatively impoverished economies. I
have 7 grandchildren the majority of whom love me. I have a marriage
which has lasted over 40 years and still going stronger than ever. All
of that with no heart, no eyes, no brain? See what I mean Brian, you
seem to speak in useful metaphors but when one analyses your comments
they turn out to be so much dust and spray. Nothing of consequence.
People like you stand on the sidelines of life and throw insults
interjections and suggestions. But never do they, or you, do anything
constructive. You are simply a failure at life. Your marriage broke
down, your kids don't talk to you anymore and you're in the throes of
poverty and malnutrition. Doesn't take a genius to work that out.
### - hahaha you just make things up as you go along and the only person
it convinces is you lol, it's pitiful! and you worked that all out by
yourself did ya? followed all your own straight lines and ended up nowhere
lol, not even close :)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
what GOOD are YOU to this planet??
I'm a product of this planet and I'm part of this planet. Most if not
all of my substance *was* this planet before it became *me* and when I
die, I'll return to this planet. We are just ambulatory parts of the
planet living in the lithosphere and we are part of the planet which
is itself part of a system of moving parts called the solar system
which is itself part of another larger system of moving parts called
the Via Lacta which is itself part of another system of moving parts
called Laniakea which is itself part of another much larger system of
moving parts called ... Universe.
Very little we do at the local level affects anything beyond that. But
I do more than you and most of what I do creates benefits of which I
don't need to persuade you. Because I generally don't care what you
think.
### - but not enough to be able to let it go huh? (riiight...)

methinks you doth protest too much sir! a whole heap too much ;)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
nada! just another fucking blood sucking leech on the backside of
humanity! quaffing your napoleon brandy, taking exotic vacations, and
congratulating yourself every time another human being at the bottom of
your road literally starves to death!
That's a good one. Calling me a blood sucking leech when I have paid
my way since childhood. What about you Brian? How's those welfare
cheques and council subsidised flat going? When was the last time you
went out into the world and traded your skills for money and created?
Apart from an undersubscribed "book" about dreaming by the world's
expert dreamer :)
### - hah it's no good prevaricating and then projecting your own faults
and misdeeds onto me: you're the leech here! you're a mini-trump! and
THAT's why you not only understand his motives but also abhor them! it's
yourself you hate! and with good reason! you've partied while others more
deserving starved! everything you describe and decry about trump applies
directly to you! you're exactly the same as him only smaller, far smaller!
tiny by comparison! a mini-leech! but you're in exactly the same field as
him! used exactly the same tools! employed exactly the same techniques!
you've plundered and robbed your way to the top only on a far smaller
scale! you're identical to him! and everything you hate about him applies
directly to YOU! in trump's terms you're a successful man, but in terms of
'humanity' you're a complete failure! a complete non-starter! and as such:
just another completely useless human being! (if you're even human at all
that is...)
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Post by slider
and i bet you're proud of yourself too innit lol...
Well, yeah. Aren't you? Part of survival is being proud of oneself
and loving one's self and organism. It's called the life force. When
you lose that you are no use to anyone or anything. You lost your
life force a long, long time ago evidently.
### - am not actually, am actually rather embarrassed to be associated
with such a bunch of ignorant, banana-loving (and addicted) apes... like,
i feel like i must have gotten off at the wrong bus stop haha, ya know? i
don't know what am even doing here really, i just don't belong, can't
belong to such an inane enterprise as planet wallyworld heh... it's
actually rather disappointing!

i've noticed that the morons aren't unhappy though lol, are never bored
with it haha, and all they ever wanna play is king of the castle lol, it's
so inane? and did i mention boring?? (fucking boring, in fact am almost
bored to death with it all it's so boring and inane...)

but you love it don'tcha eh? can't get enough of it eh?? well, lol you're
pretty fucking boring too then mate, there's no 'life' in you! no
personality! just a walking/talking pocket calculator of the cheap variety
that adds, subtracts and divides, and that's it... nothing else, nothing
ever new or different, tick-tock tick-tocks for a bit, goes a bit baldy
(haha) and then gone just like millions of others before it... one of the
'unborn', of those who 'never lived' (not really or much anyway...) who
never knew 'life' beyond a vague description of it written by someone
else...
Post by thang ornerythinchus
What's "innit" by the way?
### - a bastardisation of: 'isn't it' (heh) innit :)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
you're a mini-trump thang! you should be pleased he won!
Nope. I'm a libertarian and self made person.
### - heh that's exactly what HE says too! :)))
Post by thang ornerythinchus
I believe in personal
freedom and the absence of other people telling me what to do. I
despise authority.
### - sounds like you're reading from his bible now! and thumping it no
less lol :)))
Post by thang ornerythinchus
I love and respect women and do not feel threatened
by them, in fact I like women much more than most men.
### - (laughing...) well you can't just expect to be 'exactly' like him
LOL :)))
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Therefore, I despise Trump and hope the cunt dies of a stroke. He
certainly looks like a high blood pressure type.
### - it's YOU that will probably die of one too, after all, you've
stuffed yourself with exactly all the same high calorie crap he has for
decades! been living off the 'fat of the land' huh?? chickens, home &
roost always comes to mind (ya reap what ya sow being rather kinda similar
don'tcha think?;)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
trump is your god! you were made in the image of him!
At fear of repeating myself, you're a fucking moron.
Post by slider
so don't start pretending you're a human being now, it's embarrassing!
What? I'm not a member of homo sapiens sapiens? Are you insane?
### - not really thang, you're actually an offshoot of them? a damaged
sapian? one of nature's little errors; a mutation! some are good some bad
but mostly they're just fucked up: you were never one of them... a born
outsider actually... always wanting 'in' but never quite making it, only
ever in emulation only... and which is why you despise them? (because you
do despise them don't you!) and they despise you also 'because' you're not
one of them! but you got a bit of revenge on them didn't you eh? by being
better than them at what they aspire to? easy for you though ya see
because you never suffered from their distractions! were almost immune to
them! lol any cunt can be a calculator!
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
Coriolis effect?? ain't no hole deep enough in which you can hide from it
all now sport, being a very important and strategic nuclear lookout radar
post; oz will be one of the very first places to go! (gud!)
Have you got any idea just how big Australia is Brian? If you placed
Perth, where I live, on London, Sydney would be around where Moscow
is. It's as wide as the continental USA.
### - erm, have you seen the new satan 2's; can take out whole areas like
france for instance in just one shot? plus there aren't that many places
of any consequence (or size) in oz to hit? a few major population centers
only, very cheap then to sterilise australial lol, just half a dozen
satans would probably do the lot hahaha... only the original aborigines
would likely survive such an attack by dint of being completely far away
from it all heh, good! they alone deserve to survive :)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
You're talking about Pine Gap which is 3600km from Perth. Perth
itself is 3940km from Sydney and 4400km from Brisbane. Once I
hitchhiked from Cairns to Perth, it took me 3 weeks part of which was
over >1000km of unpaved desert road, sleeping at night under the stars
with no human being anywhere closer than hundreds of km. A nuclear
weapon on Pine Gap will incinerate a few spinifex and the installation
- that's about all.
Nuclear war only in its final throes destroys population centres.
Before then, nucdets hit only force and counterforce (eg most of the
middle of the US will be hit hundreds of times to try to take out the
missile fields of Kansas and so on before they can be fired, unless
Trump orders a first strike). So, here in Perth, thousands of KM away
from practically anything, we aren't a major target.
Unlike London on that little island you call Britain where there will
be hundreds of nucdets right in your backyard :)
### - yeah dream/fantasise on sport, just imagine it's ALL happening to
someone else except you and you'll be alright eh? you'll remain intact?
NONE of us are gonna survive my blind friend, none of us! we are a doomed
species! one of nature's little experiments gone rapidly awry! destroyed
itself ultimately! just add it to the rest of the pile of 99% of nature's
extinctions! in a few million years or so the planet will recover and just
carry on like it always has for BILLIONS of years! humanity will have had
it's 15 cosmic minutes of fame! (duh even the dinosaurs lasted
considerably longer!)
Post by thang ornerythinchus
Post by slider
the tragedy of it all is you'll never even see it coming... :)
You want me to see it coming? Your sadism knows no bounds. You are a
deep fried cunt.
And you don't even see that about yourself. That, my friend, is a
tragedy.
### - don't you WANT to see it coming?? maybe not! blind to the end no
doubt! it's more comfy that way!

i, otoh, will at least 'attempt' to look that fucker right in the eye no
matter what 'form' it comes or appears in! right in the fucking eye! maybe
even teach IT some lessons!

and all that jazz ;)



good movie! :)
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